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    Quote Originally Posted by Openwater View Post
    If I was a betting man, I'd put my money on Phil before the "scientists" who twist data, results and conclusions to either push an agenda or for other self-serving reasons. Unfortunately, corporate greed has leaked into many scientific communities and industries; alas, I digress.
    That's a pretty unfair characterization of the overwhelming majority of scientists. It is always possible to find individuals at the fringes of any field who advocate things that fall outside the mainstream. Unfortunately those folks are often the people who shout the loudest and get quoted by the press. Science works by building consensus, so when people say the scientists don't agree...that is a normal thing and just the way it works. However, agreement (mostly) comes about after a time via groups repeatedly finding the same results and through different ways of approaching answering the question and arriving at the same result. Science is also a bit weird in that it doesn't ever really PROVE anything....instead the approach is generally to reject all the alternative answers.

    To return to the topic at hand, I think MOST scientists who actually WORK in the maple field recognize that there have been changes in the timing of the maple season and are concerned about the long-term viability of COMMERCIAL maple production in some areas, particularly those in the southern edges of the sugar maple range (where periodic high temps during the season just kill sap flow), but by and large they tend not to be the doom and gloom types who suggest that maple production will end soon. Lumping all of these folks (self-included) with those who either don't really know about maple, those with some agenda, or are just happen to be out on the fringes is a real disservice.
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    Sorry Doc, no offense intended. Like you said, it's the ones on the fringe that get reported and quoted, so those of us that don't read the scientific journals often get led astray.
    Thanks for all your expert advice, suggestions and unbiased knowledge-sharing on this forum.
    Last edited by Openwater; 03-21-2023 at 07:17 PM.
    2020 - 1st year - 13 black walnut taps - 4 bottles syrup
    2021 - 50 taps, 22 black walnuts/28 red maples - 4 gallons syrup
    2022 - 54 taps, 11 black walnuts/41 red maples, 20 on solar shurflo vacuum - 8.5 gallons syrup
    2023 - 47 taps on 45 red maples, 43 on solar shurflo vacuum

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins View Post
    MOST scientists who actually WORK in the maple field recognize that there have been changes in the timing of the maple season and are concerned about the long-term viability of COMMERCIAL maple production in some areas, particularly those in the southern edges of the sugar maple range (where periodic high temps during the season just kill sap flow).
    Those who participate in this blog are essentially hobbyists. We don't live in the COMMERCIAL maple production part of central Pennsylvania which is centered around Somerset County (in the Appalachian mountains). If you haven't already, you might want to visit some of those commercial producers during their annual open house.
    Last edited by HowardR; 03-20-2023 at 03:50 PM.
    680 5/16 taps on gravity
    red and sugar maples
    2 Homemade ROs
    Stovetop evaporator
    Filter press by Daryl
    Star San Tube Pump
    Drying rack for hydrometer
    Loves tapping in snow

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    Made about 2 1/2 gallons of syrup tonight! Tomorrow is it!
    Going to gather in the afternoon, get it in the evaporator and pull
    the plug! We’ve been scratching real hard the last two weeks,
    and think when we are done we’ll have 70 gallons.
    115 red maples on vacuum
    100 taps on 5/16 gravity
    35 taps on 3/16 gravity
    50 taps on shurflo vacuum
    about 60 buckets on giant roadside sugars
    neighbor bringing from 45 taps
    30'x 8' Aof/Auf Evaporator
    Homemade 125gph Ro
    Lots of Homemade Equipment!

    http://s848.photobucket.com/albums/a...%20Sugarshack/

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    Paddymountain,

    I'm a couple days later than you. I'm expecting to finish up tomorrow. We just had three nights with lows below 22, but there isn't another frost predicted for more than a week.

    Usually I tap around February 15 and am done by March 15. This year I tapped on February 5 and I'll be done on March 22 -- I can't remember a longer maple syrup season.
    Last edited by HowardR; 03-21-2023 at 07:08 AM.
    680 5/16 taps on gravity
    red and sugar maples
    2 Homemade ROs
    Stovetop evaporator
    Filter press by Daryl
    Star San Tube Pump
    Drying rack for hydrometer
    Loves tapping in snow

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    Last boil tomorrow. Then I'm packing-up and getting ready for trout season.
    Been a longer season, but less syrup production than last year. Seems like sap has been pretty watery this year, 1-1.5%.
    2020 - 1st year - 13 black walnut taps - 4 bottles syrup
    2021 - 50 taps, 22 black walnuts/28 red maples - 4 gallons syrup
    2022 - 54 taps, 11 black walnuts/41 red maples, 20 on solar shurflo vacuum - 8.5 gallons syrup
    2023 - 47 taps on 45 red maples, 43 on solar shurflo vacuum

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    HowardR: 2013! We tapped the beginning of February and finished
    up around April 2! Made 101 gallons of syrup. It was the season that
    went on forever, almost had to tear the siding off the house for
    syrup wood!
    115 red maples on vacuum
    100 taps on 5/16 gravity
    35 taps on 3/16 gravity
    50 taps on shurflo vacuum
    about 60 buckets on giant roadside sugars
    neighbor bringing from 45 taps
    30'x 8' Aof/Auf Evaporator
    Homemade 125gph Ro
    Lots of Homemade Equipment!

    http://s848.photobucket.com/albums/a...%20Sugarshack/

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    I didn't start keeping records until 2015. The year before (2014) was such a good year for sap that I couldn't keep up with it. I stopped collecting while it was still pouring in and ended up dumping hundreds of gallons because it was going bad in my collection tank. I built my first RO in time for the next season and have been able to keep up with the sap flow ever since.
    680 5/16 taps on gravity
    red and sugar maples
    2 Homemade ROs
    Stovetop evaporator
    Filter press by Daryl
    Star San Tube Pump
    Drying rack for hydrometer
    Loves tapping in snow

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    Boiled out the evaporator and have it all filtered and in bottles.
    Total for the season: 73 gallons 7 pints. It was a real
    struggle getting there. I feel that this was the toughest season
    since I have been making syrup. On to flushing lines and washing buckets.
    115 red maples on vacuum
    100 taps on 5/16 gravity
    35 taps on 3/16 gravity
    50 taps on shurflo vacuum
    about 60 buckets on giant roadside sugars
    neighbor bringing from 45 taps
    30'x 8' Aof/Auf Evaporator
    Homemade 125gph Ro
    Lots of Homemade Equipment!

    http://s848.photobucket.com/albums/a...%20Sugarshack/

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