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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins View Post
    The UVM PMRC report on the Barb Spout results is at: https://www.themaplenews.com/story/p...t-results/473/

    Briefly, in our research we found a 12.2% increase with the Barb Spout in one study and a 10.3% increase in the other compared to control spouts. A cooperating maple producer and equipment supplier in Ohio (where they had very good conditions this year) had a 36% increase with the Barb Spout.

    The Middle Valley Maple website isn't quite ready yet.

    In the meantime, you can order by emailing bob@middlevalleymaple.com

    or by calling Bob Carpenter at:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pdiamond View Post
    Dr. Perkins do you know the price that Middle Valley Maple is charging for the spouts?
    No, but it will be in the ballpark of most regular single-use plastic spouts. It isn’t any more complicated to produce than a standard spout.
    Dr. Tim Perkins
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    When you tap in the barbed spout, do you still hear the change in tapping sounds, when you get to the right spot?
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
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    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    When you tap in the barbed spout, do you still hear the change in tapping sounds, when you get to the right spot?
    I may be wrong, but I believe they have a mark on them to indicate the depth they should be set to.
    2016 - 2 x 4 Randy Worthen built arch and pans 11 taps; 2.625 gallons of syrup!
    2017 - 29 taps; 11.625 gallons of syrup!
    2018 - 30 taps; 98 pints bottled! New sugar house being built, new equipment coming!
    2019 - 125 taps; 50 gallons made! New 2x6 Smoky Lake Corsair arch, drop flue pan, auto draw. Smoky Lake filter press and Steam Bottler
    2020 - 173 taps; only 35 gallons made.
    2021 - 242 taps; New record! 50.5 gallons made!
    2022 - 321 taps; New record! 80 gallons made!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    When you tap in the barbed spout, do you still hear the change in tapping sounds, when you get to the right spot?
    Yes, the sound change is normal as is the hammer bounce. The Barb Spout does take a little more "precision" during tapping. You want to hit it squarely, otherwise it has a slight tendency to shift from side-side as it goes in. Nothing major, but it is noticeable at time.

    The video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL16D9bAbIk give a bit of information.

    People have also asked if it is difficult to put Arc-Flow fittings on tubing. It is not much different than a standard fitting. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQIACHdXb_A

    Lastly, when these spouts are pulled, they will often pull away some bark with them. While it may be unsightly and may appear to be of concern to some folks, it should be noted that BARK is totally dead, so you're not damaging any living part of the tree. We've monitored taphole closure, and there is no difference between standard spouts and Barb Spouts. More realistically, it's a good indicator that as long as they are put in properly they do NOT come out of the taphole...that was one of the design features after all. Even though the spout barrel is shorter, they stay in the tree.
    Dr. Tim Perkins
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    Thank you Dr. Perkins, and as a side note welcome to Michigan., when you arrive.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pdiamond View Post
    Thank you Dr. Perkins, and as a side note welcome to Michigan., when you arrive.
    Thanks. Moving into our new place in South Lyon in mid-June.
    Dr. Tim Perkins
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