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    Because my building was already done, all we did was remove the shingles and cut the plywood to the size of the cupola. I had an Amish friend make the cupola as it was much easier for me to just put it up, rather than mess with the building of it. I can't cut a straight line for nothing, let alone build anything. He did a great job too. My son screwed it on from inside the sugar house.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    Thanks! Nice sugar shack! If I ever get a real evaporator, I will add walls to what I am building, but while I am using a cinderblock evaporator I want lots of open sides.

    Can you open the lourvers or does the steam find it’s way through. (I know that could be a stupid question). Is your cupola about a foot high?
    These are what I used for louvers:
    https://www.homedepot.ca/product/fle...tem/1001682798

    They swivel. It's 3 truss widths long, so about 4'. The opening is about 15" (3 standard fence boards).

    It's probably undersized, but I only have a barrel evaporator now, but planning to have a 2x4 next year. If the bigger evaporator produces too much steam, I can add a hood to the evaporator.

    I'll try to get a picture from inside but it's built using air nailer, so no fancy joinery like your plans.
    2015 - 8 buckets, 332L sap, 8.5L syrup - Barrel evaporator, 2 steam pans
    2016 - 8 buckets, 432L sap
    2017 - 10 bags, 470L sap, 9L syrup
    2018 - 20 bags, 1050L sap, 17.6L syrup
    2019 - 20 bags, 970L sap, 22.2L syrup
    2020 - 17 bags, 813L sap, 17L syrup

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbletop View Post
    These are what I used for louvers:
    https://www.homedepot.ca/product/fle...tem/1001682798

    They swivel. It's 3 truss widths long, so about 4'. The opening is about 15" (3 standard fence boards).

    It's probably undersized, but I only have a barrel evaporator now, but planning to have a 2x4 next year. If the bigger evaporator produces too much steam, I can add a hood to the evaporator.

    I'll try to get a picture from inside but it's built using air nailer, so no fancy joinery like your plans.
    Thanks, very cool about the louvers. Thanks for the link. I may also do the roof vents for the other 8 feet of the roof, not covered by the cupola.

    I won’t be doing any of that fancy joinery either.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 106.5 L of delicious syrup made
    DYI RO and DYI Vacuum Filter

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    I walked up the hill today where I will be putting my new lines. It is steep all the way with no flat spots and lots of maple trees and there will be a good long stretch at the end that will be steep leading up to my collection barrels, that will be the “crux”, the engine of the lines.

    It will be ideal. I have to get permission each year to use it, so I will be grateful for any year that I am allowed to use it.

    I am also going to redo some lines I did last year and also will not do two lines. I won’t know how many taps I will have for sure until the fall when I actually put all of the lines out, but it will be between 100 and 120. No buckets. And I will have the same number of collection areas and barrels. I will have a better collection pump and piping into the RO in my garage, so a lot less carrying and a lot less pails to clean.

    Today I dug out three medium sized roots with the help of my ATV pulling them out. I am also grading the area around my concrete pad. Not much more will happen until I get the backhoe here to dig out the two large stumps on the left side of the picture. Orange pail lids show the approximate placement of the four posts for the 10x10 structure. There will be a fairly large deck surrounding the pad. All of the wood except the four posts is free wood.

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    Last edited by Swingpure; 05-23-2022 at 04:37 PM.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 106.5 L of delicious syrup made
    DYI RO and DYI Vacuum Filter

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    Gary, you can't beat free.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start

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    As promised. Hard to get a good view with the truss' in the way.



    2015 - 8 buckets, 332L sap, 8.5L syrup - Barrel evaporator, 2 steam pans
    2016 - 8 buckets, 432L sap
    2017 - 10 bags, 470L sap, 9L syrup
    2018 - 20 bags, 1050L sap, 17.6L syrup
    2019 - 20 bags, 970L sap, 22.2L syrup
    2020 - 17 bags, 813L sap, 17L syrup

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbletop View Post
    As promised. Hard to get a good view with the truss' in the way.
    Thanks. It was also interesting seeing your trusses.

    Not positive yet what I am going to do.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 106.5 L of delicious syrup made
    DYI RO and DYI Vacuum Filter

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    The good news is the back hoe showed up and dug out the two large stumps. I knew there was a 50/50 risk that my concrete pad might get affected because the stumps were so close to the pad. Prior to the hoe arriving, I cut as many roots as I could find going under the pad. At first I thought I was successful, but on the almost last scoop, the pad got lifted and broke at the only hairline crack in the pad.

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/096Y...9iJ4ajq8S6ygfg

    The bad thing is I had based all of my measurements for the post locations, off of the pad. With the pad moved, I will have to go to plan B.

    The back hoe also had a large bucket. so the holes are quite large for my sono tubes, but fortunately my soil is very sandy, so it will not be too hard to fill in.

    I will figure out how to place the sono tubes in the correct, square locations.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 106.5 L of delicious syrup made
    DYI RO and DYI Vacuum Filter

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    Gary forgive the ignorant question, but what are sono tubes?
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start

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    Pour concrete,,,, put rebar in. very cheap for what they do. I concrete may crack but not break apart
    2012 200 taps on buckets,,, Built me a 2' X 11' arch,,, hope to put most on tubing next year.

    2011 100 taps on buckets, 30x 60 flat pan

    2009 63 taps on buckets,,,, 30x60 flat pan

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