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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Sapper View Post
    There are several threads on grates. The most common is to use angle iron in the V position as this allows the ash to fill and insulate it. I have unistrut in mine and is the same as when I put it in 12 years ago. I suded to have 304 stainless sheets protecting my insulation but the heat burned it out in less than 2 years so I know my fire is hot. The unistrut is galvanized and so far unaffected by the heat.
    I have been using 1.5"x1.5"x3/16" angle iron in the "V V V V V" configuration for the past 4 seasons with no issues. They are easily removable and replaceable if needed but i havent had to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Heldeberg Sapper View Post
    I have been using 1.5"x1.5"x3/16" angle iron in the "V V V V V" configuration for the past 4 seasons with no issues. They are easily removable and replaceable if needed but i havent had to.
    Thanks!

    The top of the V points up?
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    My last boil for the first time I had brown bubbles that I would call syrup bubbles in the last channel. They never got out of control and I just thought it meant I was getting close to making syrup.

    In today’s boil that is on going, they appeared again almost right away and this time around 63 Brix they started to get higher in the channel. When I add wood and the front of the pan momentarily cools they back off a little, but came back.

    It is not for lack of defoamer.

    I ended up drawing off at 63 Brix to resolve the problem.

    There are still some bubbles in the channel after the drawoff, but not out of control.

    Any suggestions?
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    Yes, VVVV up. Here is a link to Smokey Lake for an example for a grate.

    https://www.smokylakemaple.com/product/steel-grates/

    Bryan

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    No the point goes down. I just welded some 1/2" long pieces of 2x2/1/8" angle together in a VVVVV pattern and then the 1.5" sits inside of it for the spacing. I tired uploading a photo but it wont let me right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    My last boil for the first time I had brown bubbles that I would call syrup bubbles in the last channel. They never got out of control and I just thought it meant I was getting close to making syrup.

    In today’s boil that is on going, they appeared again almost right away and this time around 63 Brix they started to get higher in the channel. When I add wood and the front of the pan momentarily cools they back off a little, but came back.

    It is not for lack of defoamer.

    I ended up drawing off at 63 Brix to resolve the problem.

    There are still some bubbles in the channel after the drawoff, but not out of control.

    Any suggestions?
    If its bubbling up like crazy and defoamer wont touch it, then its a build up of niter and you need to drain and clean your pan. I avoided doing cleaning for too long and ended up caking on an 1/16" layer of niter that was starting to burn in spots and was a pain to clean. Never happened to me before but we had a lot of niter this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Heldeberg Sapper View Post
    If its bubbling up like crazy and defoamer wont touch it, then its a build up of niter and you need to drain and clean your pan. I avoided doing cleaning for too long and ended up caking on an 1/16" layer of niter that was starting to burn in spots and was a pain to clean. Never happened to me before but we had a lot of niter this year.
    Thanks and rats, just two boils left.

    I am in the middle of a boil, should I shut it down?
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    Thanks and rats, just two boils left.

    I am in the middle of a boil, should I shut it down?
    My instincts say yes shut her down, so I have stopped adding wood and have left the door open to cool down faster.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.
    2024 - made 48 L, December to March, primarily over two fire bowls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    My instincts say yes shut her down, so I have stopped adding wood and have left the door open to cool down faster.
    Better safe than sorry. I kept boiling on mine for probably 8 hrs total when it was foaming up (had never happened before) and i regretted it immensely haha.

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    swingpure are you referring to foam or bubbles near the draw off. there is a difference ?

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