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    Default No Weld Baffles in Pan

    Has anyone figured out a way to have baffles in a pan without welding them in ?

    I have a 2x4 flat pan.
    Would like to install some baffles
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    I think most folks building a flue pan start from scratch. Most folks who want to convert a flat pan seem to do it by adding drop tubes, which are soldered in.

    Gabe
    2016: Homemade arch from old wood stove; 2 steam tray pans; 6 taps; 1.1 gal
    2017: Same setup. 15 taps; 4.5 gal
    2018: Same setup. Limited time. 12 taps and short season; 2.2 gal
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    2020: New Mason 2x3 XL halfway through season; 9 taps 2 gals
    2021: Same 2x3, 18 taps, 4.5 gals
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    Quote Originally Posted by berkshires View Post
    I think most folks building a flue pan start from scratch. Most folks who want to convert a flat pan seem to do it by adding drop tubes, which are soldered in.

    Gabe
    I think he's talking about taking a flat pan and putting dividers in it to make it a continuous draw pan.
    Jake
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    Correct Jake-

    I have a 7" flue pan.
    I am trying to install two dividers in a flat pan>

    Muggy weld has fluxless solder product you just heat up with a torch.
    Just wondering if there is a simpler way
    2010 40 buckets- 4 gals finished
    2011 80 buckets- 14 gals finished
    2012 105 buckets- 8 gals finished
    2013 maxed at 130 buckets- 24 gals finished
    2014 new max at 240 buckets- 18 gals finished
    2015 newest max 240 buckets-+48 taps on 3/16 gravity- 22.5 gals finished
    2016 150 taps on 3/16 gravity- 23 gals finished
    2020 250 taps on 3/16 gravity- 22 gals finished
    2021 385 taps on 3/16 gravity 25 gals finished
    2022 385 taps on 3/16 gravity- 26 gals finished

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    I’m thinking about this myself - I have a triple bowl commercial stainless steel sink that I want to divide. I don’t really want to weld until I get the setup figured out. So instead of buying sheet metal, I bought an oversized stainless steel cookie sheet from Amazon. The cookie tray has a 1” lip all the way around it so I’m going to use a metal c-clamp and attach it to the side. I’m hoping any small gaps at the bottom will just get filled with sugar and seal it that way. My compartments are 18x21 so a cookie sheet will work just fine leaving a gap of an inch or two at the end. There are sheets made by Fox Run that have square folded edges but I couldn’t find one big enough and went with this - https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 .

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    The first year we boiled with a divided pan, the dividers were only tacked on, about every six inches. This made it harder to work up a gradient. Don’t underestimate how much sap will flow under the dividers. It will not get filled up with sugar.
    2017 - 20ish taps on buckets, boiling outside in two baking pans
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    2021/22/23 - expanded into the neighbors yards! 50 taps on buckets and 40 taps on tubing

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    If you make the new pan from scratch it can be bent up as a "U" shape for each partition. those can be joined at the openings at the ends to eliminate the welded in baffles. I am making it sound easier than it is.
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    Chrid
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    Tried welding the baffles- with a Stainless flux and solder......
    And my buddy is a an expert with these things- warned me that SS is tough to deal with.
    Pan warps WAY TOO much as soon as the heat gets on it.

    Time for a re-think
    2010 40 buckets- 4 gals finished
    2011 80 buckets- 14 gals finished
    2012 105 buckets- 8 gals finished
    2013 maxed at 130 buckets- 24 gals finished
    2014 new max at 240 buckets- 18 gals finished
    2015 newest max 240 buckets-+48 taps on 3/16 gravity- 22.5 gals finished
    2016 150 taps on 3/16 gravity- 23 gals finished
    2020 250 taps on 3/16 gravity- 22 gals finished
    2021 385 taps on 3/16 gravity 25 gals finished
    2022 385 taps on 3/16 gravity- 26 gals finished

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    Sugarmaker, that's exactly what I did when I made my pan last year. I went with 20 ga which worked great but there is still some tricky welding with that thin of material.
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    2020: Decided I needed a new hobby, design and build an arch.
    2021: 35 taps on bags, 5 gallons finished syrup.
    2022: 75 taps on bags, 8 gallons finished syrup.
    2023: 85 taps on bags, 15 gallons finished syrup.

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