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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    It is from the SapTapApp. This map will torture me as everyone south of me starts reporting weeks before my sap flows.
    Yes, that’s the way it works. Southern areas have their season first, then it progresses northward.

    If looking at the map is troublesome, stop looking at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins View Post
    Yes, that’s the way it works. Southern areas have their season first, then it progresses northward.

    If looking at the map is troublesome, stop looking at it.
    Lol, I have to look at it, it is like watching Santa coming on NORAD!
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.

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    Have some family in Louisville , Thats awesome you all are doing a workshop. Yea , I feel like im running behind every year , but don't worry , as soon as I get all of them tapped , it will stop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    It is from the SapTapApp. This map will torture me as everyone south of me starts reporting weeks before my sap flows.
    Okay, well I bit on the line you threw out. Nifty. That being said, unless I'm not using it right, it looks like hardly anyone in VT taps maple trees. <eyeroll> Does the fact that the app is not used much not mess up the data?

    GO
    2016: Homemade arch from old wood stove; 2 steam tray pans; 6 taps; 1.1 gal
    2017: Same setup. 15 taps; 4.5 gal
    2018: Same setup. Limited time. 12 taps and short season; 2.2 gal
    2019: Very limited time. 7 taps and a short season; 1.8 gals
    2020: New Mason 2x3 XL halfway through season; 9 taps 2 gals
    2021: Same 2x3, 18 taps, 4.5 gals
    2022: 23 taps, 5.9 gals
    2023: 23 taps. Added AUF, 13.2 gals
    2024: 17 taps
    All on buckets

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    Quote Originally Posted by berkshires View Post
    Okay, well I bit on the line you threw out. Nifty. That being said, unless I'm not using it right, it looks like hardly anyone in VT taps maple trees. <eyeroll> Does the fact that the app is not used much not mess up the data?

    GO
    I think the App is used a lot, but sap isn’t flowing yet, so no one is reporting yet. I find it great for knowing the boiling point of sap at my location , taking into account the air pressure. It also has a sap flow predictor which can be helpful. The sap flow maps gives you an idea of when to start to get ready to start tapping. And there is a reporting section.

    I jokingly said that it will be torture watching everyone tapping well ahead of me, but I think it will be neat and I think this will be a valuable app for me.
    2022 - 5 pan block arch - 109 taps, 73 on 3/16 lines, 36 on drops into 5 gallon pails.
    930 gallons boiled, 109 L (28.8 gals) of delicious syrup made.
    DYI Vacuum Filter
    2023 - 170 taps, mostly on lines, 1153 gallons boiled, 130 L (34.34 gals) of delicious syrup made, on a 2x4 divided pan and base stack, 8” pipe, on a block arch that boiled at a rate of 13 gallons per hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swingpure View Post
    I think the App is used a lot, but sap isn’t flowing yet, so no one is reporting yet. I find it great for knowing the boiling point of sap at my location , taking into account the air pressure. It also has a sap flow predictor which can be helpful. The sap flow maps gives you an idea of when to start to get ready to start tapping. And there is a reporting section.

    I jokingly said that it will be torture watching everyone tapping well ahead of me, but I think it will be neat and I think this will be a valuable app for me.
    Maybe I wasn't clear with my post. I signed up for the app, and was surprised by one thing: There are a total of 7 sugarbushes in the entire state of VT in the app. Compare that to CT which has 24 sugarbushes (more than three times as many) - again, according to the app. However in the real world, VT has 70 times the number of taps that CT does. So that very sparse reporting in VT and heavier stats in some other areas (like CT) seems like it would make the app less relevant. But I've not used it before, so who knows.

    DrTim - do you guys enter your data into the app? Obviously you don't need the app to do any data recording - I'm sure you have much more detailed info, but I suppose it might be a bit of a public service.

    Gabe
    2016: Homemade arch from old wood stove; 2 steam tray pans; 6 taps; 1.1 gal
    2017: Same setup. 15 taps; 4.5 gal
    2018: Same setup. Limited time. 12 taps and short season; 2.2 gal
    2019: Very limited time. 7 taps and a short season; 1.8 gals
    2020: New Mason 2x3 XL halfway through season; 9 taps 2 gals
    2021: Same 2x3, 18 taps, 4.5 gals
    2022: 23 taps, 5.9 gals
    2023: 23 taps. Added AUF, 13.2 gals
    2024: 17 taps
    All on buckets

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    Can you even get the SapTapApp anymore?
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    Maybe the app is correct and people in Vermont don't tap trees. It could all be a conspiracy haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    Can you even get the SapTapApp anymore?
    Yes, go to www.saptapapps.com

    Cheers,

    Gabe
    2016: Homemade arch from old wood stove; 2 steam tray pans; 6 taps; 1.1 gal
    2017: Same setup. 15 taps; 4.5 gal
    2018: Same setup. Limited time. 12 taps and short season; 2.2 gal
    2019: Very limited time. 7 taps and a short season; 1.8 gals
    2020: New Mason 2x3 XL halfway through season; 9 taps 2 gals
    2021: Same 2x3, 18 taps, 4.5 gals
    2022: 23 taps, 5.9 gals
    2023: 23 taps. Added AUF, 13.2 gals
    2024: 17 taps
    All on buckets

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