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    Default How loud is an oil fired evaporator

    The question is posed above. Currently, I have a 2x8 drop flue evaporator sitting on a homemade arch that has AUF/AOF supplied by a 1 HP bounce house blower that is in a box in an encloses back portion of my arch to reduce noise. I am getting tired of cutting and splitting wood in between working 12 hr shifts. I also am wanting the evaporator to be quiet like the natural draft wood arches but have no idea how loud a Carlin 301 would be if I changed over to oil. Are they loud, quiet or somewhere in between. I really love the idea of a flip of the switch and your up and running with oil, less wood in the sugar shack, less mess from the wood, less soot to clean off the flues, less dust, and less noise from the bounce house blower, but I'm sure a Carlin 301 must create some noise and is quite a bit more money. Looking for advice.

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    Less mess
    Chad

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    Doc, I currently have a 2x8 drop flue on an oil burner rig. I’m running a Carlin 301 on there with a nozzle that’s smaller than I prefer. I’ve been going back and forth all season if I want to change the arch to wood or put a bigger nozzle on and continue to run oil.
    I will tell you the option you describe as “flip a switch” is everything you think it is. On my rig (can’t speak for others) I can literally run my head tank dry and as soon as I see no concentrate running to the float box I flip the switch and can walk away. I don’t have brick in my arch just insulation so it doesn’t take it too long to cool down. With 3 young kids and a full time job this takes away a ton of startup/shut down time. Plus I concentrate to over 14% so all together it makes it an easier pill to swallow. I want to put a bigger nozzle on for faster boiling rates. What are you seeing with your 2x8 wood fired rig?
    Last edited by maple flats; 03-28-2021 at 09:13 AM. Reason: some how I believe Mead Maple typed concentrate but auto error changed it to concrete. I changed it
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    No louder than an oil furnace minus the fan, or a boiler.
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    started on a 2x2 pan in 2000 and now
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    Pretty much what Brian said. You can hear it but by no means would I consider our 2x6 loud. Oil is very convenient, we would never gonna go back to wood.
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    We have a 3x10 and its not loud at all. You know its running but can have a normal conversation over it

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    I’m running a 2x8 on a Leader oil arch and the Carlin 301 with a 4 gph nozzle. Originally it was what I thought was loud but that was without the burner cover. After I put the cover on the noise is not that bad. The “flip a switch” outweighs the little bit of noise. Had a float box issue right in the middle of a big draw the other night and that instantaneous shut down gave me a chance to fix the flow problem before there was a burnt pan.
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    There is definitely noise with oil-fired rigs. A lot depends upon the evaporator -- some are way louder than others. It isn't something that is really noticeable until you shut it off after a boil. Certainly better than a Steamaway blower, RO, compressor, or vacuum pump. We've put most things we are able to relocate into other buildings both for power reasons and for noise reasons.
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    Quieter than the chainsaw I'd have to run all summer to get enough BTU's to equal what my two Carlin 701's produce.
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    I run a Carlin 301 on my 2x6. Just sounds like a fan, a bit of a loud fan, but definitely tolerable. I also will NEVER go back to wood. I run a 4.0 nozzle and made just over 100 gallons on 1 tank of oil, which I purchased for $1.79 last summer. I know I could make more on 1 tank if I concentrate to a higher level. Each year I make slight adjustments, will probably concentrate to 12% next year as I get more sap and trees tapped.
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    Thank you for the replies. My bounce house blower is loud and a normal conversation cannot be had without really raising your voice.

    Mead Maple; currently I'm boiling 50-60 gph with my 2x8 but have pushed it as high as 80 gph. I would like to concentrate to a higher brix than 8%, more like 15-20% then boil the rest. I probably sound crazy but I think I would like a bigger RO than my double post 4x40 so I can concentrate higher on first pass and get to a higher brix quicker and then have a quieter and maybe slower evaporator to boil with. How large is your RO that you are getting to 15%?
    Chad

    2014: 12 taps, 5 gal buckets
    2015: 15 taps on bags
    2016: 150 taps: 100 on bags, 50 on 3/16" natural vac, 2x8 AUF/AOF Homebuilt Arch, 2x8 SL Drop Flu & Auto Draw, SL Propane Canner/Bottler
    2017: 225 taps: Built Lean to, Added SL hood, preheater, concentric exhaust, SL SS 7" SB Filter Press
    2018: 180 taps: Added Shurflo to 50 - 3/16", Auto fill sensor to head tank
    2019: No tapping
    2020: 175 taps
    2021: 300 taps, homemade RO and releaser
    2022: 600+ taps

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