Has anybody put a tap on the north side as well as the south side and compared the results
over the season?
Has anybody put a tap on the north side as well as the south side and compared the results
over the season?
I never compared them, not that scientific. I do however have about 25% of my taps on each side, not specifically directly north, south, east or west, but sort of in those general directions.
If you favored all south exposures this year, at some point in the future all should be northerly.
I believe most of the difference will just be the timing of best sap flow. South will tend to produce earlier, north later in the season and east/west in between.
Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.
I suspect there would be very little difference within a single tree. However, stands of trees on the north or south sides of a hill would probably behave quite differently.
60ish taps on buckets
D&G Sportsman 18x63
Turbo RB15 RO Bucket
Its been my personal experience with buckets and bags when tapping that there is no difference in the amount of sap produced from the trees, On good days both sides produced well on slow days not so well. Now my trees have all been sugar maples both in the open and in the woods.
2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
made 17 gal. syrup
2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
2021 - Didn't work out
2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start
This has been done numerous times in scientific studies. In some years there may be a difference (in hot years the north side is better, in cold years the south side is better), however in most studies compared average yields over several years, the results showed no difference due to aspect. The best approach, as suggested by others already, is to spread the tapping around the entire tapping zone over time to avoid cluster tapping.
Dr. Tim Perkins
UVM Proctor Maple Research Ctr
http://www.uvm.edu/~pmrc
https://mapleresearch.org
Timothy.Perkins@uvm.edu
i've read so many articles
over a root
under a branch
below 3 feet flows more, above 3 feet flows less
north side won't flow as much as the south
south flows early, north flows late
west side will flow better than the east
But i have never seen any actual numbers..i'm going to do some experimenting this year with north and south taps on the same trees.
MY REPLIES IN CAPS AFTER EACH OF THESE STATEMENTS
over a root NO NEED. SAP WILL FLOW IN ALL SAPWOOD.
under a branch SAME AS ABOVE.
below 3 feet flows more, above 3 feet flows less. THE DIFFERENCE IS SLIGHT.
north side won't flow as much as the south WRONG. OVER MANY YEARS THEY AVERAGE THE SAME.
south flows early, north flows late THIS IS OFTEN CORRECT, BUT SOUTH FLOW STOPS EARLIER N THE SEASON, NORTH CONTINUES LATER
west side will flow better than the east NO EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS TRUE.
But i have never seen any actual numbers..i'm going to do some experimenting this year with north and south taps on the same trees.
IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THIS, DO IT FOR AT LEAST 3-5 YRS TO ACCOUNT FOR SEASONAL DIFFERENCES BEFORE MAKING ANY CONCLUSIONS.
Dr. Tim Perkins
UVM Proctor Maple Research Ctr
http://www.uvm.edu/~pmrc
https://mapleresearch.org
Timothy.Perkins@uvm.edu
How long will it take for a 55 gallon drum of frozen sap to melt?
2019 LNG fired pot, 20 taps on 3/16, 10 buckets, gave it up after 3 gal.
2020 New Mason 2x4 XL; 30 taps on 3/16
if it is outside and follows the freeze ..thaw cycles of the weather a month plus....
So I think I just learned I tapped too early
2019 LNG fired pot, 20 taps on 3/16, 10 buckets, gave it up after 3 gal.
2020 New Mason 2x4 XL; 30 taps on 3/16