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    Default Stored bucket of syrup smells fermented

    I had a bucket of syrup in the basement 57 degrees, the bucket was left for a few months when I opened it there was foam on the top and it had a fermented odor. I realize a yeast was introduced somehow. My question is can the syrup be used safely in another form or reheated and canned. Thanks
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    Heat it back to 218 or so, and cool it, then taste it. It might be OK or it could be sour. Don't leave syrup in a bucket for more than maybe 3-4 week max, and try to keep it below 40F even then.
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    I have made good sugar with fermented syrup. Just have to be careful boiling it as the alcohol can make it foam dramatically...

    I know of others that have added fermented syrup to the flue pan while boiling at the end of the season with good results...
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    Storing syrup in plastic, especially if wasn't properly hot-packed, was low in density and/or has some headspace WILL lead to fermentation. It most likely will never be good as table syrup again, but as suggested, adding a little at a time slowly to the flue pan during a long boil (near the end of a season) might make it OK.
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    Thank you for the responses.

    My main concern was any food borne illness issues, second could it be used in cream or sugar processing or simply becomes bear bait.
    2022 - 157 taps, 40 gallons of syrup
    2021 - 171 taps buckets and tubing, 41 gallons of syrup
    2020 - 225 taps bags and tubing, 45 gallons of syrup
    2019 - 180 taps buckets and bags, 50 gallons of syrup
    Lapierre 2x8 Vision with reverse flow, hood & preheater
    Leader Micro2 RO
    Lapierre 10" short bank press

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    Bear bait and nothing more.
    Been tapping since 2008.
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    2022 - 18 taps/8 trees....7 sugars 1 red due to #2 having surgery so had the season off....582l sap, 18.5l syrup
    2023 - 18 taps/8 trees...all sugars again. 807l sap, so far approx 14l syrup

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    I had this happen a few years ago. 2 5g buckets got pushed to the side and forgotten. It was ropey when I discovered and smelled like a brewery when I boiled it separately. Foamed like crazy. We bottled it and I gave it away to family. We called it "cooking syrup" and it was excellent for that purpose.
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    Finished the season with 16 gallons made
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