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    Default Prescribed fire in a sugarbush

    I would like to perform a prescribed fire in my sugarbush as we did a select cut last year. My question is: Can a prescribed burn be done in a sugarbush without hurting the tubing? Our tubing is approximately 30" off the ground.
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    I never heard of a prescribed burn in a sugarbush.
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    What do you hope to accomplish with a prescribed burn? I also have never heard of one being done in a sugarbush and in my opinion yes your tubing will suffer some damage.
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    What exactly are you burning? A brush pile, or a section of bush.
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    Might as well take down the tubing and throw it right into the fire.

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    I have always heard that sugar maples are easily damaged by even small fires. There was a ground fire started by kids in part of the sugar woods I bought in 2003 and there were quite a few sugar maples that sustained lower trunk damage. They survived but it has been almost 20 years and the scars are still not completely grown over.

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    The hope for a prescribed burn would be to clean off the leaf litter allowing the ground to be warmed and have natural regeneration of the forest floor with forbes and legumes. I manage my property for maple, bees, and deer. Having a prescribed fire provides a bioligical desert under the canopy to regenerate and provide a lot of food for deer and small animals.
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    From what I have read maple do not like fire. Indians in Canada did control burns pre settlers to promote grass for deer and promote growth in nut and fruit trees. the maples in Canada came after the Indians stopped the burns. that is when maples filed in the large fields.
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    As the leaf litter breaks down it helps condition and fertilize the soil.
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    Chad, In my opinion your plan is way overestimating the benefits of the prescribed burn. By burning the leaf litter, you will be destroying the natural fertilizer and more importantly, destroying any young maple regeneration. The deer are the last thing I would want in my maple woods. I have way too many deer around my woods and thy are browsing all the small maples that should be growing the next generation of the sugar bush

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