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  1. #131
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    Reading the last two posts, a filter press is definitely a game changer - even for a hobby operation.
    I felt we had our filtering down pretty well - ended up adding a Smoky Lake 3 bank with hand pump, finished syrup is crystal clear.
    The filter press is spendy but takes your product to a whole different level.
    We also use the Smoky Lake Murphy Cup prior to running through the press and a steam bottling unit.
    We gift most of our syrup but will also sell some to cover the costs of next year's supplies.
    You can take a bottle and tip it upside down and there is absolutely no niter on the bottom of the bottle.
    Scott Bingham
    Smoky Lake 2x5 Corsair Arch and Hybrid Pro Pan
    Smoky Lake 3 Bank Filter Press
    Smoky Lake Steam Bottler
    100+ Taps
    Pug 4x4 Sap & Wood Hauler

  2. #132
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    Thanks for press feedback. Someday! If I add more taps next year, the funding for one should increase. Unless it's a really good year, I'm not clearing that much

    Got all caught up yesterday in the heat. Tanks and storage all cleaned up and ready for the next run and heatwave.

    The stuff that came off the evaporator yesterday was amazing. Nice amber color but oh so good. Foamy stuff though.

    edit; just looked at the 10-day and after tonight no freezing worth a darn in it
    Last edited by littleTapper; 02-28-2024 at 07:43 AM.
    42.82N
    2015 - Small operation. 25 buckets. One excited 5 year old and one 35 year old that feels 5 again.
    2016 - One year older. New Homemade 2x4 Arch, Smoky Lake Pan and looking at 52 maples, 17 box elders and 2 walnut trees.
    2017 - Shurflo 4008 hooked to 42 stingy silver maples and a few Norways. A couple buckets on sugars and Norways. 10 box elders.
    2018 - ...a few more taps.
    2019 - ...more taps on 3/16 gravity. This spiral is heading downward in a hurry.
    2020 - 4x400 RO - RB20 (uh-oh!)

  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleTapper View Post
    Realized some of my first bottling is crystalizing in the bottles. If I had to guess, the refractometer is out of whack a bit. Was delaying getting a hydrometer, but not anymore. Ordered up one from Smoky Lake.

    Also incorporated the cone filter optimizer this year after deciding not to plunge into a filter press (yet). Works great. Moves syrup through much faster and it's coming out nice and clear.
    How do you like the cone filter optimizer?
    150 on 3/16 gravity 2018 and 120 sap sacks
    14 x 20 sugar shack
    2014 New custom 2x6 arch "The Firestorm" w/ preheater, AUF & AOF
    Smokey Lake pans and water jacket bottler
    2024 new 2x8 set of drop flue pans and hood from Smoky Lake. Lengthen our arch.
    Just a hobby but seems like more work every
    year
    3 generations working together
    Wife that guards our syrup
    43.74° N

  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by WI Sugarpop View Post
    How do you like the cone filter optimizer?
    It is way, way, way better than a straight cone filter. Syrup goes through considerably faster. It also results in less prefilter usage from clogging; and pulling a prefilter is a better experience as well; as the bottom/point of it is still unused and when you pull it the syrup goes to that and right through. It's a bit more challenging to get a stack of prefilters in it; but less are needed than when using them in their normal shape. Pulled only two prefilters in 6-8 gallon filterings.

    Such a simple device, but it really does help. Makes cone filters much less of a hassle to where I do not dread that step any longer.

    I put mine in a 4-gallon square bucket with the bottom cut out that sits on a stainless rack over a 5-gallon bucket when filtering. I then dump the bucket in the steam bottler; warm up, then have at it. Sped up my filtering and bottling operation a lot.
    42.82N
    2015 - Small operation. 25 buckets. One excited 5 year old and one 35 year old that feels 5 again.
    2016 - One year older. New Homemade 2x4 Arch, Smoky Lake Pan and looking at 52 maples, 17 box elders and 2 walnut trees.
    2017 - Shurflo 4008 hooked to 42 stingy silver maples and a few Norways. A couple buckets on sugars and Norways. 10 box elders.
    2018 - ...a few more taps.
    2019 - ...more taps on 3/16 gravity. This spiral is heading downward in a hurry.
    2020 - 4x400 RO - RB20 (uh-oh!)

  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleTapper View Post
    It is way, way, way better than a straight cone filter. Syrup goes through considerably faster. It also results in less prefilter usage from clogging; and pulling a prefilter is a better experience as well; as the bottom/point of it is still unused and when you pull it the syrup goes to that and right through. It's a bit more challenging to get a stack of prefilters in it; but less are needed than when using them in their normal shape. Pulled only two prefilters in 6-8 gallon filterings.

    Such a simple device, but it really does help. Makes cone filters much less of a hassle to where I do not dread that step any longer.

    I put mine in a 4-gallon square bucket with the bottom cut out that sits on a stainless rack over a 5-gallon bucket when filtering. I then dump the bucket in the steam bottler; warm up, then have at it. Sped up my filtering and bottling operation a lot.
    Thanks for your input. We've used cone filters for over 20 years. My son has always done the filtering and he does a great job. We do between 75 and 115 gals of syrup. We also sell sap but probably not this year. We're at about 37 gals of syrup so far.
    150 on 3/16 gravity 2018 and 120 sap sacks
    14 x 20 sugar shack
    2014 New custom 2x6 arch "The Firestorm" w/ preheater, AUF & AOF
    Smokey Lake pans and water jacket bottler
    2024 new 2x8 set of drop flue pans and hood from Smoky Lake. Lengthen our arch.
    Just a hobby but seems like more work every
    year
    3 generations working together
    Wife that guards our syrup
    43.74° N

  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbingham View Post
    Reading the last two posts, a filter press is definitely a game changer - even for a hobby operation.
    I felt we had our filtering down pretty well - ended up adding a Smoky Lake 3 bank with hand pump, finished syrup is crystal clear.
    The filter press is spendy but takes your product to a whole different level.
    We also use the Smoky Lake Murphy Cup prior to running through the press and a steam bottling unit.
    We gift most of our syrup but will also sell some to cover the costs of next year's supplies.
    You can take a bottle and tip it upside down and there is absolutely no niter on the bottom of the bottle.
    The investment is a tough pill to swallow but I agree it is a game changer. I picked up a smokey lake filter press when he first offered them and have had excellent success. It is also helpful to pump syrup, sap or even water with the built in valve configurations.
    2x6 Smokey Lake raised flue w/AUF
    16x30 Sugar Shack
    7" SL SS filter press
    Smokey Lake water jacketed finish pan & bottler
    350 RO
    517 taps and I seem to keep finding more!

  7. #137
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    Well, the forecast here really blows. Should get a decent run here today into tomorrow, but yeesh. With the amount of heat in the system, I'm not sure how my silvers don't try to grow leaves in the next 10 days. Fingers crossed middle of the month cools down, but I don't trust that long-range forecast - been teasing colder all along and keeps shifting up.

    Hopefully you folks a bit north of me see some freezes starting the 5th.

    Scary/interesting looking at growing degree days here. Last year was kind of wild; this is a different level.
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    42.82N
    2015 - Small operation. 25 buckets. One excited 5 year old and one 35 year old that feels 5 again.
    2016 - One year older. New Homemade 2x4 Arch, Smoky Lake Pan and looking at 52 maples, 17 box elders and 2 walnut trees.
    2017 - Shurflo 4008 hooked to 42 stingy silver maples and a few Norways. A couple buckets on sugars and Norways. 10 box elders.
    2018 - ...a few more taps.
    2019 - ...more taps on 3/16 gravity. This spiral is heading downward in a hurry.
    2020 - 4x400 RO - RB20 (uh-oh!)

  8. #138
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    First day below freezing for me is 3/10, and that's a whopping 31F for about an hour overnight...

    I make quart sized ice cubes for my totes. I only have about 15 containers for them though. Toss them into tanks, then make more as fast as they'll freeze, which lets me rotate about twice a day. I actually just started using permeate instead of sap since it will stay frozen a little longer. I won't mind the extra 2 minutes to RO it out. In any event, I'm already tired of it so this next week is going to suck.
    Mark

    2024 95 taps, 4040 RO build. 46 gallons syrup
    2023 51 taps on 5/16" Shurflo vacuum system; Homemade oil tank evap, Smokey Lake 2x4' Divided pan; 3x150GPD RO. 48.125 gallons syrup
    2016-2022 12 taps into buckets; 3 steam pans over cinder block arch, ~3.75gal syrup

    SE Wisconsin
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  9. #139
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    Yeah, this next week is going to be not too fun.

    Boiled this morning and finished things up and bottled again. Right at 20 gallons for my 96 taps.

    Oddly enough, the trees have started to run a bit this afternoon. Got 10 gallons off the 32 sugars right now after emptying the tank this morning. No freeze in a while and they were stopped dead this morning.

    We'll keep going as long as we can. Got people knocking down the door for syrup
    42.82N
    2015 - Small operation. 25 buckets. One excited 5 year old and one 35 year old that feels 5 again.
    2016 - One year older. New Homemade 2x4 Arch, Smoky Lake Pan and looking at 52 maples, 17 box elders and 2 walnut trees.
    2017 - Shurflo 4008 hooked to 42 stingy silver maples and a few Norways. A couple buckets on sugars and Norways. 10 box elders.
    2018 - ...a few more taps.
    2019 - ...more taps on 3/16 gravity. This spiral is heading downward in a hurry.
    2020 - 4x400 RO - RB20 (uh-oh!)

  10. #140
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    Cloudy sap, and barely enough to warrant firing up the evap so I'm going to keep holding till the weekend. I don't feel great about it though.

    All my tubing which is mostly new this year, even the stuff fully shaded near my pump, is totally gunked up. Can barely see through it. Already decided I won't be spending time cleaning it this year. It's all going in the trash. I figure it only costs me about 12 hours of a heavy flow next year to break even. This is a rough season.
    Mark

    2024 95 taps, 4040 RO build. 46 gallons syrup
    2023 51 taps on 5/16" Shurflo vacuum system; Homemade oil tank evap, Smokey Lake 2x4' Divided pan; 3x150GPD RO. 48.125 gallons syrup
    2016-2022 12 taps into buckets; 3 steam pans over cinder block arch, ~3.75gal syrup

    SE Wisconsin
    43.3N

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