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    Default Guzzler as a vacuum booster

    I have no experience with guzzlers, but I was wondering if one could be used within a vacuum system at the bottom of a sap ladder to help push the sap up the ladder and to boost the vacuum below the ladder?

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    Sure they could. What is your vacuum pump?
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    That's a neat idea. Please keep us updated on what you find. I have never thought of this but if it works I will be.
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    Which Guzzler pump would you be using? Single diaphragm pump should work OK. Dual diaphragm pump may work OK as long as there isn't much backpressure on the outlet side.

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    My situation now is that I have a 600' mainline that ends at about an 8' ladder. Below the ladder the main goes under a train track and then about 1000'. It is a fairly flat line and last year I seemed only be able to keep about 15 inches of vac at the end with about 24" at the releaser. I added a dry line to the main this year so I will wee how that goes, but may try the guzzler if I want more. If the guzzler doesn't work, I have a place I can use it in the future and will probably try the new CDL electric sap lifter.

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    So I installed the guzzler on Saturday, and we had good runs Saturday and Sunday and it really helped. I'm now seeing consistent 21-22" at the end of the mainline.
    I should clarify that my main problem was that the ladder was not keeping up during the heavy flow times, so I only need to run the guzzler then. I actually installed it in a bypass around the ladder with a Tee just before the ladder and then teeing into the main above. That way when I shut off the pump, the sap doesn't have to flow through it, but can still go up the ladder. I also put valves on each side of the pump and quick couplings so that I can remove the pump while the system is under vacuum. I also close the valves when the pump isn't running.
    I hope this makes sense...

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