What is your preference...Auger, Brad point or standard bit?
Also i bought new taps this year from CDL and they recommend a 5/16" bit but it is too small!
I get a nice fit with 11/32" ?
What is your preference...Auger, Brad point or standard bit?
Also i bought new taps this year from CDL and they recommend a 5/16" bit but it is too small!
I get a nice fit with 11/32" ?
What do you mean by too small. The spout only goes in a short ways. Most will recommend a regular tapping bit, but an Erwin auger bit does a good job
125-150 taps
Smokey Lakes Full pint Hybrid pan
Modified half pint arch
Air over fire
All 3/16 tubing
Southern Ohio
A standard maple tapping bit that is sharp works best. Regular wood bits aren't designed for drilling into frozen wood or able to move out the shavings quickly.
Bits should be used for 2,000-2,500 taps and either resharpened (with a machine that is set correctly) or replaced. You should always match the bit to the spout to ensure you have the correct size. 5/16" to 5/16", 1/4" to 1/4", 19/64 to 19/64", etc. We've used the Lapierre bits for several years now.
Last edited by DrTimPerkins; 02-01-2021 at 03:14 PM.
Dr. Tim Perkins
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Bite the bullet and buy an official tapping bit in 5/16 if that is the designated size of the taps you bought. Then drill the holes in and out non stop in one motion. When done tapping, save that bit for next year. It is far better than the alternatives mentioned above. Also, when you set the tap, either use an official tapping hammer, or a "ladies hammer (light weight)" or I use the flat side jaw on a pair of 7" lineman's pliers. Which ever you use, tap lightly and listen for the sound to change. It will sound solid when it's properly set. Do not use a framing hammer or the back of a hatchet, they will set the tap too far in and might crack the bark. It's best to use a cordless drill, have it well charged, and drill at full speed if it has different speeds.
Improper tapping is often the reason for poor sap flow.
Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.
As Dr. Perkins eluded to, it depends on the spout used. You want a tight fit. If CDL told you to use a 5/16” bit based on the tap you used, that’s what I would do. Saying it is too small leads me to believe you might trying to drive it too deep.
305 taps on 2 Shurflo's, 31 taps on 3/16" and 229 taps on gravity. 565 in all
Mountain Maple S3 controller for 145 of the vacuum taps
2x6 Darveau Mystique Oil Fired Evaporator w/ Smoky Lake Simplicity Auto Draw
Wesfab 7” filter press
I understand you guys questioning the 5/16" tap not fitting the 5/16" hole...trust me
I have drilled holes with 3 different 5/16" bits and the taps will not go in 1/8".
These new 30 degree taps are 3/8" at the shoulder and taper down to a bit over 5/16" at the drip end.
Using an 11/32" drill bit they go in about an inch and are too tight to go any further so that's fine.
My friend has an auger bit that has a taper perfectly matching the taper in his spiles ..but I have
not seen anything in any of the manufacturers catalogues as nicely and purposely made.
How deep should they go? Where in the sapwood is the flow highest?
Last edited by ir3333; 02-01-2021 at 07:12 PM.
You should mark you drill bits at 2 inches. If you have a very large tree with thick bark maybe pull pull off some of it to get to the tree. I have used regular bits and I have to agree with all the others on this one, get a tapping bit. They are worth the money.
2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
made 17 gal. syrup
2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
2021 - Didn't work out
2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start
.....but where do I get an 11/32 tapping bit?
And how deep should the tap go?
Last edited by ir3333; 02-01-2021 at 08:42 PM.
Check the bit you have and make sure it is actually a 5/16” bit that you think it is and not a 19/64” bit.
Sugaring for 45+ years
New Sugarhouse 14'x32'
New to Me Algier 2'x8' wood fired evaporator
2022 added a used RB25 RO Bucket
250 mostly Sugar Maples, 15% Soft Maples. Currently,(110on 3/16" and 125 on Shurflo 4008 vacuum, 15 gravity), (16,000 before being disabled)
1947 Farmall H and Wagon with gathering tank
2012 Kubota with forks to move wood around
What CDL spouts are you using?
305 taps on 2 Shurflo's, 31 taps on 3/16" and 229 taps on gravity. 565 in all
Mountain Maple S3 controller for 145 of the vacuum taps
2x6 Darveau Mystique Oil Fired Evaporator w/ Smoky Lake Simplicity Auto Draw
Wesfab 7” filter press