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    Default Chip removal in tap holes

    How do people prevent wood chips from getting into your tubing system without risking bacteria infiltration? Running 3/16 tubing, want to prevent clogs from chips. Has anyone bought sterile cotton-tipped applicators to remove chips from tap holes before placing the taps?
    1990's: Dad ran a buckets and cinder block evaporator, dragged us kids along.
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    Although not currently allowed in the States, some Canadian producers will give the hole a shot of IPA and water, with a spray bottle, to flush anything out.
    Or you can use a small twig and simply push it in and twist back out. Green twigs work well as they are usually fairly “stringy” at the ends.
    I have found that any small shaving will eventually plug-up a downstream fitting. You’re on the right track.
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    it's easiest to just break off a twig at each hole and swab it out. Takes maybe an extra 30 seconds. Actually, I usually break one off as I'm walking to the next tap and have it ready
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    I have tried the cotton "qtips" in a clean zip lock bag but it seems like another thing to carry, keep clean and use in the drilling procedure. If you wait until the sap is running, the hole will be cleaned quickly with good sap flow. A quick in out drilling with a good tapping bit will leave little or no shavings. I check the hole and now use a twig for the few holes that have shavings.

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    I wonder if anyone has ever used the aerosol canned air that is used to dust off computer keyboards.
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    Sticking anything into the tap hole, unless the item is sanitized between holes, is a good way to prematurely introduce bacteria into the hole and shorten it’s production lifespan.
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    I wonder if a small amount of distilled water from a mustard type squirt bottle would have any negative affect on the cleanliness and longevity of the tap hole.but gbeneke is right, just one more thing to carry. BAP's correct too, anything not sanatized will potential cause problems.
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    I like both the compressed air and DD H20 idea.
    Seems compressed air would be a pain in the bush, but a squirt bottle with double distilled water would certainly be easy enough...
    That said, the twig, and its "organic" tones, seems like the winner in my book!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    Sticking anything into the tap hole, unless the item is sanitized between holes, is a good way to prematurely introduce bacteria into the hole and shorten it’s production lifespan.
    Being a nurse by trade, I’m used to seeing the sterile wrapped q tips on the long wooden shafts. I wondered if I bought a sleeve of them, & used one per tap hole if that wouldn’t keep it at lower risk for bacteria.
    1990's: Dad ran a buckets and cinder block evaporator, dragged us kids along.
    2020: 35 buckets over a cinder block evaporator
    2021: Smoky Lake Dauntless with a divided pan. 45 taps on 3/16 tubing and another 45 buckets. Set up in a Lean-to off the side of the shed

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-ciccarello View Post
    Being a nurse by trade, I’m used to seeing the sterile wrapped q tips on the long wooden shafts. I wondered if I bought a sleeve of them, & used one per tap hole if that wouldn’t keep it at lower risk for bacteria.
    That could work, but it's lots of wrapping and Q-Tips going to the trash, also not sure you wouldn't be just pushing chips further up into the hole.
    A twig acts sort of like a brush or a pick and seems to pull chips out at you withdraw it. You're still on the right track though trying to eliminate chips with 3/16 tube fittings as small as they are...
    John Allin

    14x18 Hemlock Timber Frame Sugar House 2009
    Leader 2x6 w/Patriot Raised Flue Pan 2009
    Leader Steam Hood 2014 - Clear Filter Press 2015
    Leader Revolution Pan and SS Pre-Heater 2016
    CDL Hobby RO & Air Tech L25 Hi Vac Pump 2019
    06' Gator HPX to collect wood & sap
    14' Ski-Doo Tundra for winter work in the woods
    Great Family 3 grown kids+spouses and 7 grand kids who like the woods
    7th Gen Born in Canada - Raised in Chardon Ohio - Maple Capital of the World..<grin>.

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