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    I use the 4008 12v Shurflo in three spots. The one on the S3 runs directly off a 12v marine battery. Two other set ups run off 110v power, but I still use 12v pumps. I use an old computer power supply to convert to 12v for the pump. It's an extra component in the box, but it's constant worry-free power and it beats hauling and charging batteries daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanD View Post
    I use the 4008 12v Shurflo in three spots. The one on the S3 runs directly off a 12v marine battery. Two other set ups run off 110v power, but I still use 12v pumps. I use an old computer power supply to convert to 12v for the pump. It's an extra component in the box, but it's constant worry-free power and it beats hauling and charging batteries daily.
    This is exactly what I was looking for!!!
    I'm building a system right now and using a 12volt sureflo but want to run it off 110 power.
    Are you using a temperature controller with your setup?
    If so, do you have any pictures to share?

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    It's the two-stage Inkbird I have linked further up in the thread. My new box is ready to go. Now I can't find anyone with an old PC tower kicking around their basement! All I find in the e-waste piles are laptops and LCD tvs. Maybe I should go to an antique shop or, *gulp* buy one.
    Woodville Maples
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    Around 300 taps on tubing, 25+ on buckets if I put them out
    Mix of natural and mechanical vac, S3 Controller from Mountain Maple
    2x6 W.F. Mason with Phaneuf pans
    Deer Run 250 RO
    Ford F350
    6+ hives of bees (if they make it through the winters)
    Keeping the day job until I can start living the dream.

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    I have a tower you can have. You just have to drive out here to the Berkshires for it.
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    Right, you know what's going to happen as soon as I buy one.
    Woodville Maples
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    Around 300 taps on tubing, 25+ on buckets if I put them out
    Mix of natural and mechanical vac, S3 Controller from Mountain Maple
    2x6 W.F. Mason with Phaneuf pans
    Deer Run 250 RO
    Ford F350
    6+ hives of bees (if they make it through the winters)
    Keeping the day job until I can start living the dream.

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    Putting together my shurflo setup for those who use a temp control do you use a electronic valve or do you just run the pump below freezing say minus 1 Celsius and have it shut off

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    I bought Black plastic tote boxes from HD or Lowes. When it starts to warm up they heat up faster than another color box. In 4+ years of using these Ive never had a pump freeze up and get damaged.

    -1C should be perfect for you.

    -SMD


    Quote Originally Posted by Bbc.396 View Post
    Putting together my shurflo setup for those who use a temp control do you use a electronic valve or do you just run the pump below freezing say minus 1 Celsius and have it shut off
    2022 4x40" RO, Welch 1397 Vac Pump, 3 Guzzler Pumps, Lapierre Releaser, 1100 taps
    2021 Twin Baby Boys, Close to 650 taps
    2020 Upgraded RO to 2 post and 7GBS Pump. 265 taps
    2019 Smoky Lake 2x6 raised flue, Autodraw system, Maple Jet Filter Press, a beautiful new bride to be my sugaring partner :-)
    2017 Expanded Sugar Shack, new 2x6 with float box, NEXTgen Maple RO, 250+ taps, still on sap sacks
    2016 Sugar Shack, 2x6 evaporator, 160 taps, all on Sap Sacks
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    Do you use an electric valve the opens inline before the pump?

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    We put in a 15 watt bulb which keeps our box at 63 degrees. Our box is also covered with purple foam insulation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbc.396 View Post
    Do you use an electric valve the opens inline before the pump?
    On my remote battery setup, yes. The S3 controls it, so when the temp drops, the valve opens - bypassing the pump to gravity, the pump runs for 10 more seconds to clear the pump and line. No light bulb, no freezing. Fully automatic. Just need to swap out batteries. The S3 is a great unit for a remote situations.

    On my 110v plugins I use the bulb to keep things from freezing because once the pump shuts off, the line and the pump stay full of sap. I do have a valve just before the box, but that's so that I can clean the filter during a pickup without losing vac in the whole line. I'll show up, close the valve, shut off the pump, clean the screen, open the valve and turn the pump back on.

    If there is going to be a multi-day deep freeze, I disconnect the box entirely and take it home. I'll leave the line open to gravity feed to the tank. Once the weather improves, the box goes back out.
    Woodville Maples
    www.woodvillemaples.com
    www.facebook.com/woodvillemaples
    Around 300 taps on tubing, 25+ on buckets if I put them out
    Mix of natural and mechanical vac, S3 Controller from Mountain Maple
    2x6 W.F. Mason with Phaneuf pans
    Deer Run 250 RO
    Ford F350
    6+ hives of bees (if they make it through the winters)
    Keeping the day job until I can start living the dream.

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