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    If you build a sugar house, I should say when, pour a concrete floor. I’ve done it both ways and crushed stone is hard to level etc. it’s cheaper but I will echo the others and say it’s cheaper to spend more today and do it right.
    I don’t make a ton of syrup maybe six gallons last year, I look at sugaring at the hobby level like craft beer. This is the largest growing segment of the industry and the manufacturers have noticed. From the small hobby RO to the mini rigs with all the bells and whistles. Don’t focus on production but quality. Also if you find a number of taps you like no matter how low stick with that. I have 50 taps in Hudson and 1200 in Vermont I bet u can guess which one is more fun in my opinion. I have yet to meet a producer that didn’t love to talk about sugaring be it July or February.

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    Don't buy or build anything that you won't be able to Resell, don't buy anything Galvanized, or with lead solder, or leaded Brass. Stick with Food Grade Plastics and stainless steel. I would even be weary of stainless steel that you can't say for certain was never used for anything non food related.
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    A wife and 2 kids.

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    I have a very small operation. I have about 12 to 15 taps and make about 4 liters of syrup on a 18" X 18" stainless steel flat pan over a cast iron propane fired burner. I have been making syrup more or less like this for 20+ years and I still love it.
    My best advice is don't kill the boil when adding sap to the pan and watch the boil when it gets close to syrup, because it can burn off in an instant.
    Great idea for the forum and I loved reading all the responses!!! I hope everyone has a great season!!!
    My Operation may not be big, but it's small.

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    I'm new to the forum. And will be my first year sugaring now that I have some land. Glad to see this thread! Thanks for all the advice,

    -Juglone

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    Juglone, Welcome and good luck. Have lots of fun. if you have any questions feel free, we are all here to help.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start

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    I’m going to add when you cross over the 100 tap threshold, add a float leveling set up to you pan. Greatest thing since RO.
    Sugaring since 2000.
    2022 - 113 taps on tubing and gravity. Homemade wood fired evaporator and homemade RO.
    2023 - 120 taps on 5/16 and gravity added a float to the pan. built a new 5x400gpd RO. Still use the old one too!
    2024 - 125 taps still on 5/16 tubing and gravity, two home made ROs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 82cabby View Post
    So to help kick off this area of the forum, what piece of advice were you given when you started that turned out to be really valuable? I’ve learned so much from this forum and from experts around my area it’s hard to narrow it down, but a couple that stand out:

    Base all your decisions on the assumption you will have more taps next year.

    Buy a hydrometer

    Keep a bucket of sap next to the evaporator just in case the pan goes too low. (This one saved me more than once)

    A little Homemade syrup makes bourbon taste even better!
    All of the above is certainly wisdom. The best advice I was personally told was to "cover your wood in November". The other wisdom was gathered from multiple sources and also listed above is to get a hydrometer.
    RC Maple

    14X14 sugarhouse - new for 2012
    RO Bucket - RB10 - New for 2019
    2x3 barrel evaporator with continuous flow pan
    55 taps - most on buckets
    This is next year!

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    One piece of advice I was given was to never, ever leave the evaporator unattended once it is started. Things can go from running smoothly to disaster in a flash.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal. syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 ga.l syrup
    2021 - Didn't work out
    2022 - 25 taps on bags / 8 taps on 3/16's line - late start

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    One thing that I was told that was hard to do was switch to oil. Oil I said, you make syrup with oil. The guy said it is just a heat source, sell the wood and buy oil. That was a game changer, boiled faster, easier to maintain boil and syrup flow and if anything happened you could turn it off!! Yes I keep a oh $hit bucket of water there for Justin Case, he has not visited in a long time, but if he does I hope I will be ready. If he don't show, I use it to rinse the floor.
    Blaisdell's Maple Farm
    started on a 2x2 pan in 2000 with Gramps buckets
    custom built oil fired 4x12 arch by me
    Thor pans Desinged by Thad Blaisdell
    4500 taps on a drop flue 8-4 split

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