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    Default Tips for 275 oil drum arch

    Hey all, I was lucky enough to score someone's entire setup for cheap as they are moving out of the area...in addition to tons of taps, tubing, bottles, filters, and a really nice set of 2x4 and warming pans I brought home a 275g oil tank arch that is in need of some TLC.

    What're the tinkerer's tips for making an effective arch out of one of these things? The one I got has the top cut off already, a door on the front and a flue pipe welded to the back but otherwise it's basically just a bare half drum.

    I have a simple welder and some sheets of steel that came with the rest of this stuff, should I be planning to weld in a ramp in the back or can I just use block?
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    2015: 8 bucket taps (7 red, 1 sugar) on DIY barrel evaporator
    2016: 13 taps (bucket and tube) on block arch and hotel pans
    2017: SAME
    2018: 25 taps on 2x3 flat pan and resurrected barrel arch
    2019: 25 taps...same setup plus DIY 3x150gpd RO filter
    2020: 50 taps, all buckets..."new" oil tank arch setup
    2021: 100 taps (50/50 buckets/3-16 tubing) on 2x4 divided pan
    2022: 150 taps (50/100 b/t) on 2x4 pan with sap warmer pan
    2023: SAME
    2024: 150 taps, added single-post 4x40 RO system

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    Yes weld in a ramp. Install ceramic blanket and fire brick over that.

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    I would put in a grate to get air under fire and a cleanout door for the ashes

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    Can you post a couple pictures?

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    I have a similar set up, but have just lined it with fire bricks, no ceramic blanket. Is the blanket just for heat retention? How much better will it work with the blanket as opposed to without?
    Thanks
    2017 - 20ish taps on buckets, boiling outside in two baking pans
    2018 - 70+ taps, 14-buckets, 50+ on tubing, homemade arch from oil tank in my barn, 17 gal syrup
    2019 - same set up, 20 gal syrup
    2020 - less taps, short season, but RO kit was fantastic! 6 gal syrup and a maple cat!
    2021/22/23 - expanded into the neighbors yards! 50 taps on buckets and 40 taps on tubing

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    a 1 inch thick fireblanket is perfect.Then firebrick over the blanket as far as your wood will be fed to protect it.
    i don't think you need brick anywhere else.Make sure your door is insulated and air tight.Design your grate
    with angle iron "V" up and air coming in underneath.No insulation required under the grate.
    Last edited by ir3333; 12-29-2020 at 05:11 PM.

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    Here are some pictures of ours. This has a SL hybrid pan on it here, previously we used a divided cont. flow pan.

    Attachment 21802Attachment 21803Attachment 21804

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    ADK, I was able to get 15gph evaporation rate out of mine. I had an old furnace blower I piped in from the rear with a 3" steel pipe with some slots that ran to the front of the arch. Essentially creating air under fire. It boiled really well, I was using a neighbors continuous flow 2'x4' pan with a pre-heater. That was my first go with sugaring and I was hooked.
    Mead Maple "It's for the kids..."
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    -Goal: 3 gallons
    -Season Total: 7.5 gallons - pulled taps after running out of firewood and time
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    Built 2'x8' Oil Fired with Thor drop flue pans
    -Goal: 20 gallons
    -Season Total: 55 gallons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellehollow View Post
    Here are some pictures of ours. This has a SL hybrid pan on it here, previously we used a divided cont. flow pan.

    Attachment 21802Attachment 21803Attachment 21804
    Wow, beautiful setup...thanks for sharing and sorry for my late reply.
    --
    2015: 8 bucket taps (7 red, 1 sugar) on DIY barrel evaporator
    2016: 13 taps (bucket and tube) on block arch and hotel pans
    2017: SAME
    2018: 25 taps on 2x3 flat pan and resurrected barrel arch
    2019: 25 taps...same setup plus DIY 3x150gpd RO filter
    2020: 50 taps, all buckets..."new" oil tank arch setup
    2021: 100 taps (50/50 buckets/3-16 tubing) on 2x4 divided pan
    2022: 150 taps (50/100 b/t) on 2x4 pan with sap warmer pan
    2023: SAME
    2024: 150 taps, added single-post 4x40 RO system

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mead Maple View Post
    ADK, I was able to get 15gph evaporation rate out of mine. I had an old furnace blower I piped in from the rear with a 3" steel pipe with some slots that ran to the front of the arch. Essentially creating air under fire. It boiled really well, I was using a neighbors continuous flow 2'x4' pan with a pre-heater. That was my first go with sugaring and I was hooked.
    Awesome, thanks - do you have any pictures of the setup?
    --
    2015: 8 bucket taps (7 red, 1 sugar) on DIY barrel evaporator
    2016: 13 taps (bucket and tube) on block arch and hotel pans
    2017: SAME
    2018: 25 taps on 2x3 flat pan and resurrected barrel arch
    2019: 25 taps...same setup plus DIY 3x150gpd RO filter
    2020: 50 taps, all buckets..."new" oil tank arch setup
    2021: 100 taps (50/50 buckets/3-16 tubing) on 2x4 divided pan
    2022: 150 taps (50/100 b/t) on 2x4 pan with sap warmer pan
    2023: SAME
    2024: 150 taps, added single-post 4x40 RO system

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