Oh my. I guess I'll be keeping the walnut and maple sap separate and do some real head2head comparisons on the final products.
What is the typical price on a gallon of maple syrup?
Oh my. I guess I'll be keeping the walnut and maple sap separate and do some real head2head comparisons on the final products.
What is the typical price on a gallon of maple syrup?
Bulk Price of maple is between 2 dollars to 2:30 a pound, 11 pounds per gallon 22 dollars or slightly higher per gallon! Slight difference for bulk Walnut, 40 gallon barrel of Maple 800 dollars plus, 40 gallon barrel of Walnut over 12000 dollars. Some good size walnut tapping systems going in WV and Virginia. Walnut difficult to make but the value per gallon is forcing the issue.
Mark 220 Maple
1100 taps on low vaccum, 900 on gravity.
900 plus taps leased and on high vacuum
35 cfm Indiana Liquid Ring Vacuum Pump
80% Sugar, 20% Red MAPLES
http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/g...Maple%20Syrup/
Why is walnut syrup harder to make than maple? I only tapped and boiled walnuts last year, so I don't have anything to compare to. Is their sugar content lower? Shorter sap season? Higher nitre content?
The difference is two fold, because walnut trees have fewer branches than maple trees, nowhere near the sap to work with in a walnut tree, the sap has been found to be as sweet as maple sap though, the second problem is pectin. It is in walnut sap and requires extreme filtering during the boiling process to remove it. Pectin is a wax substance. Basically the ingredient put on jams and jellies to preserve them in the old time canning. The Herby family in Highland County, Virginia is the source of a AP story last Spring that was written by the Roanoke Times, I believe if you google The new Liquid Gold you can read the story?
Mark 220 Maple
1100 taps on low vaccum, 900 on gravity.
900 plus taps leased and on high vacuum
35 cfm Indiana Liquid Ring Vacuum Pump
80% Sugar, 20% Red MAPLES
http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/g...Maple%20Syrup/
If I had more than 2-3 walnut trees I would be trying it!
Steve
SE Pennsylvania
2022 - 13 taps, RO5, 21x24 SS pan with pre-warmer pan, backyard made wood fired 55gal drum stove - 17.25
2021 - 18 taps, RO5, 21x24 SS pan with pre-warmer pan, backyard made wood fired 55gal drum stove - 12 pints
2020 - 13 taps, RO5, backyard made wood fired 55gal drum stove with 2 lg 6 deep pans - 6.75 pints (very warm winter)
2019 Rookie Season - 14 taps, RO5, turkey fryer with 6 deep pan - 16.5 pints
Pectin huh? Well, that might explain why I just about went crazy last year waiting for my hot boiled syrup to filter thru 1 prefilter and 1 orlon filter; which is why I just completed my vacuum filtering build using a shop-vac.
So are you saying that I should expect more sap from my never-tapped red maples this year than the black walnuts? That would be wonderful.
I'm assuming for the same tree and crown size, the maples have more sugars/sap than the walnuts due to more branching (and leaves).
Openwater,
From my 22 years of tapping Sugars and Red Maples you will get more sap from any maple vs a walnut tree, I am no walnut syrup producer expert! lots of research being done on walnut syrup by Future Generations University in Pendleton County WV, Should be info on line from them Dr. Michael Rechlin and his under study Kate Fotos, are probably the best source of info on walnut syrup in the USA.
Mark 220 Maple
1100 taps on low vaccum, 900 on gravity.
900 plus taps leased and on high vacuum
35 cfm Indiana Liquid Ring Vacuum Pump
80% Sugar, 20% Red MAPLES
http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/g...Maple%20Syrup/
Just saw the weather forecast... lows in the 20's and highs in the high 30's. Hopefully we get these temps when it is time to start tapping.
Steve
SE Pennsylvania
2022 - 13 taps, RO5, 21x24 SS pan with pre-warmer pan, backyard made wood fired 55gal drum stove - 17.25
2021 - 18 taps, RO5, 21x24 SS pan with pre-warmer pan, backyard made wood fired 55gal drum stove - 12 pints
2020 - 13 taps, RO5, backyard made wood fired 55gal drum stove with 2 lg 6 deep pans - 6.75 pints (very warm winter)
2019 Rookie Season - 14 taps, RO5, turkey fryer with 6 deep pan - 16.5 pints
Is there a certain reason why you can't start tapping now? since the weather is providing the needed highs & lows right now?Originally Posted by Skeller001
not really, thought I needed to wait. Has anyone else started?
Steve
SE Pennsylvania
2022 - 13 taps, RO5, 21x24 SS pan with pre-warmer pan, backyard made wood fired 55gal drum stove - 17.25
2021 - 18 taps, RO5, 21x24 SS pan with pre-warmer pan, backyard made wood fired 55gal drum stove - 12 pints
2020 - 13 taps, RO5, backyard made wood fired 55gal drum stove with 2 lg 6 deep pans - 6.75 pints (very warm winter)
2019 Rookie Season - 14 taps, RO5, turkey fryer with 6 deep pan - 16.5 pints
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