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    how big are the trees? make sure when you start the thinning process to go slow allowing time for the trees to take hold where the others were removed before proceeding with more removal in the same general area this allows the root systems to take hold better.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 gal syrup
    2021 - going for 50 bags and 50 on tubing

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    Our trees are most between 15-20 inches in diameter with a few 36"+. Our thinning will be a very long process , as I'm just starting with cleaning up dead stuff now and will only thin out a few here and there as I need more wood for the next year.
    2021- 125 taps on 3/16 gravity. New smokey lake 2x6 continues flow and new 12x16 sugar shack. Come on sugar season

    2020- 50 taps on gravity 11 gallons made. Had to end the season early due to family health issues

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    4 Paws sounds like a nice woodlot. Have lots of fun and enjoy yourself. I'll bet soon you'll be thinking about getting the high output pans for that corsair arch after you run the continuous pan, and increasing your tap count.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 gal syrup
    2021 - going for 50 bags and 50 on tubing

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    We will definitely be upping our tap count in the future as our property is primarily maples so 100+ taps per acre is a easy feat. So yes we will be looking into the high output pan setup on the next few years. Do you use a r.o Pdiamond?
    2021- 125 taps on 3/16 gravity. New smokey lake 2x6 continues flow and new 12x16 sugar shack. Come on sugar season

    2020- 50 taps on gravity 11 gallons made. Had to end the season early due to family health issues

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    I do not have an RO machine. I boil straight sap. My little 2 x 4 does around 40 to 50 gph keeping the fire fed. Your 2 x 6 will kick some butt with the high output pans. This year I am going to try something different with the fire wood. Start with wrist size, then when it gets rock'in, go a little bigger to see if I can get away without having to fire so often.
    Last edited by Pdiamond; 01-02-2021 at 08:29 PM.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 gal syrup
    2021 - going for 50 bags and 50 on tubing

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    40-50 gph is extremely impressive from your 2x4. You should easily be able to keep up with your 100 taps this year. Now you have me looking into new pans next year. My wife is going to kill me 😂
    2021- 125 taps on 3/16 gravity. New smokey lake 2x6 continues flow and new 12x16 sugar shack. Come on sugar season

    2020- 50 taps on gravity 11 gallons made. Had to end the season early due to family health issues

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    Start with wrist size, then when it gets rock'in, go a little bigger to see if I can get away without having to fire so often.
    I do this and I can't see it hurts my efficiency very much if any. It does save some loading
    125-150 taps
    Smokey Lakes Full pint Hybrid pan
    Modified half pint arch
    Air over fire
    All 3/16 tubing
    Southern Ohio

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    Nah. Just say honey I can trade in the old pan and just think what we can do with the new ones. My suggestion. I prefer the raised flue rear pan, and when you get float boxes get the sight glasses. Also the simplicity auto draw off is another nice addition. I mention these only because if you are going to get the equipment get what you want all at once. You may say Well I can add that later, it never happens. They have a very good leasing program thru North Star Leasing. When you talk with smoky Lake ask Angela about it. Let me know how your season goes.
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 gal syrup
    2021 - going for 50 bags and 50 on tubing

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    Buckeye,
    How much time in between would you estimate you need to fire using the slightly larger blocks?
    2004 - 2012 2x3 flat pan 25 to 60 taps
    2012 2x3 new divided pan w/draw off 55 taps
    2018 - didn't boil surgery - bought new evaporator
    2019 new SML 2x4 raised flue high output evap. 65 taps
    made 17 gal syrup
    2020 - only put out 53 taps - made 16.25 gal syrup
    2021 - going for 50 bags and 50 on tubing

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    gosh pdiamond I never really timed the difference, I'm guessing I can wait an extra 3-5 minutes. I don't do this until the fire is raging and a bed of coals is established
    125-150 taps
    Smokey Lakes Full pint Hybrid pan
    Modified half pint arch
    Air over fire
    All 3/16 tubing
    Southern Ohio

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