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    Quote Originally Posted by bill m View Post
    How many taps do you have on that D70?
    This year I’m go to do a little test around 450-500 taps. I never pulled vacuum I used it to push sap to my sugar house. But I changed somethings around this year and I’ll be using it to pull vacuum. I know the double diaphragm guzzler is 19.8 gpm if I remember correctly and the D70 is 19.5 gpm. I’m going to guess around 800 taps. But I’ll only use 2 1/2 gallons of gas every 24 hours and less diaphragm failure. I ran the pump for days on end last year and never changed diaphragms. And most of the time it was running dry until the releaser tripped and dumped sap in the releaser tank. But ill let you know how it goes in a few months.
    2019:250 gallons
    2020:324 gallons
    2021:?

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    Your running it with a releaser? I don't use one with mine and the new one I am putting on 315 taps won't have one either.
    First introduced to making maple syrup in 1969
    Making syrup every year since 1979
    3 x 10 oil fired
    Revolution syrup and max flue pan
    Almost 1300 taps total with 900 on high vacuum
    Bought first Marcland drawoff in 1997, still going strong.

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    No the pump is hooked up to the releaser tank. When the releaser dumps The sap goes into the tank and the D70 pumps it 700ft to the sugar house
    2019:250 gallons
    2020:324 gallons
    2021:?

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    Ok, I get it now. You have a seperate vacuum pump. I would think that D70 could handle 1500 taps.
    Last edited by bill m; 11-28-2020 at 07:57 PM.
    First introduced to making maple syrup in 1969
    Making syrup every year since 1979
    3 x 10 oil fired
    Revolution syrup and max flue pan
    Almost 1300 taps total with 900 on high vacuum
    Bought first Marcland drawoff in 1997, still going strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill m View Post
    Ok, I get it now. You have a seperate vacuum pump. I would think that D70 could handle 1500 taps.
    That I don’t know.
    Last edited by calvertbrothers; 11-29-2020 at 10:56 PM.
    2019:250 gallons
    2020:324 gallons
    2021:?

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    Are these pumps able to do vacuum on mainlines? It looks like yes, but not sure based on a couple of responses. I have a remote woods that I am going to setup with about 3000 taps. If I could use these pumps with out a releaser it would be dual purpose, vacuum and a pump to a tank.
    Scott Knapp
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    1700 Taps 2019
    3/16 Gravity 1000 Taps
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    Mine is on a 3/4 inch main line and I can get 26 inches of vacuum. I am putting another one on a 320 tap sugarbush for this season. I don't know if you can get one big enough for 3000 taps. You would have to know the maximum gallons per minute that mainline flows then find a pump that will do 3 times that amount.
    First introduced to making maple syrup in 1969
    Making syrup every year since 1979
    3 x 10 oil fired
    Revolution syrup and max flue pan
    Almost 1300 taps total with 900 on high vacuum
    Bought first Marcland drawoff in 1997, still going strong.

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    It looks like it would be closer to 1500 taps not 3000. If it would do 800 on one, then I could use 2 of them as long as I can pump to a tank with them. What are you using for powering it, gas or electric?
    Scott Knapp
    5x14 Pellet Evaporator
    3200 Taps 2021
    1700 Taps 2019
    3/16 Gravity 1000 Taps
    5/16 Vacuum 2200 Taps
    Northern NY (Canadian border north)
    sknapp6978@gmail.com
    https://www.facebook.com/Knapps-Sapp...0168377726255/

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    Quote Originally Posted by calvertbrothers View Post
    Mine ran for 5 days straight and my releaser would release every 7 minutes and it would take less than 30 seconds or so to to get the sap out of the releaser tank so to would be 6 1/2 minutes or so of dry running.
    The 6.5 minutes running dry is not my concern. I'm wondering what the CFM might be when the diaphragm is dry. I use a little diaphragm pump to pump water thru my tankless water heater. When it doesn't have a head of pressure feeding it, the air volume moved it quite low, then as the diaphragm gets wet, it works the pump much harder.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Sap Raider, mine is powered by a 3/4 hp electric motor because that's what I had. I am pulling sap uphill about 18 inches and pushing it 8 feet up to my collection tank. The new one I am putting together will have a 1/3hp electric motor. That sugarbush has great elevation drop to the tank.
    First introduced to making maple syrup in 1969
    Making syrup every year since 1979
    3 x 10 oil fired
    Revolution syrup and max flue pan
    Almost 1300 taps total with 900 on high vacuum
    Bought first Marcland drawoff in 1997, still going strong.

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