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    has anyone set up 2 guzzlers to pull on the same line? i was thinking put a seperate check valve before each pump, and have them in paralell, so if one loses a diaphragm while im at work, at least we would still be pulling with one, and we would get twice the cfm
    A&A 2x8 raised flue with hoods and preheater, converted to oil with carlin 201 for 2021
    8x12 kitchen
    8x12 canning room
    H20 7.5 1200 Econox for 2018 added 2nd membrane for 2020
    H2O 10" filter press half bank
    H2O 2430 gallon storage tank
    700+ 5/16 on vacuum, 1000+ on 3/16

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    Seems like it should work.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    For anyone running the double guzzler, if one of the diaphragms gets a hole in it, do you lose all vacuum??
    A&A 2x8 raised flue with hoods and preheater, converted to oil with carlin 201 for 2021
    8x12 kitchen
    8x12 canning room
    H20 7.5 1200 Econox for 2018 added 2nd membrane for 2020
    H2O 10" filter press half bank
    H2O 2430 gallon storage tank
    700+ 5/16 on vacuum, 1000+ on 3/16

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    As long as the umbrella valves at inlet and outlet are still intact, a bad diaphragm shouldn’t affect the other one, they are separated. The valves will block sap from flowing in reverse so the good side continues to pump and the bad side is just free wheeling. I am setting up a 24 volt G2 Guzzler with my controller now, that would be an interesting test to do, remove a diaphragm and see what happens.

    Dave
    Mountain Maple farm
    2022 NAMSC award winning dark amber syrup
    2023: 320 taps, 70% red maples. Mountain Maple S4 diaphragm pump controller with automated sap transfer and text messaging
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    It will pump , but will leak on the damaged side. I seem to go through a diaphragm each season. The housing is soft be careful when tightening.
    44 27'08/71 27'56
    300 totalish taps 250 on tube and bosworth sap sucker
    50 bucket and bags about 40-50 gallons a season
    on a 2 by 7 home made evaporator and sugar shack
    1st gen circa 1966 still learning stuff

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