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    After looking at the video I thought there had to be options. The CDL catalog gave no indication.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
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    Quote Originally Posted by maple flats View Post
    After looking at the video I thought there had to be options. The CDL catalog gave no indication.
    check with your local dealer and tech support will be the one that adjusts the components to make it fit your situation.
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    This is indeed a game changer. I'm working on expanding into an area on my neighbors' land and on federal land (trying to get permit) and the ideal collection point is just slightly higher in elevation than my sugarhouse and about 1200' away. I have a sap lifter that I was thinking of shifting over to that area but this may be a much better solution.
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    Hey I've been away for awhile, but this could be an even big game changer for not just lifting sap. If these can be sized correctly, then if someone has a remote woods with no power, then this can take them away from the mechanical releaser woes.
    You could have your gas engine vacuum pump, but use this thing as an extractor, vs. a lifter. You would just be pumping into your collection tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moser's Maple View Post
    Hey I've been away for awhile, but this could be an even big game changer for not just lifting sap. If these can be sized correctly, then if someone has a remote woods with no power, then this can take them away from the mechanical releaser woes.
    You could have your gas engine vacuum pump, but use this thing as an extractor, vs. a lifter. You would just be pumping into your collection tank.
    Given that this is marketed as a "lift system" and not an extractor, it may not work in the application you describe. A 12v deep well pump powered by a couple batteries and charged with a solar panel is likely not enough to allow this system to function as a full time extractor. My hunch is that vacuum is required on the sap lift line and the pump merely helps the sap along. So an extractor is still required to make the system function.

    That said, I could be wrong and a 12V system could be used as an extractor in the right situation.
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    this is a combination of all but has to have a vaccum pump somewhere. it will collect lines and transfer to another point the 12v pump will assist the vaccum that already exists
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    this is a combination of all but has to have a vaccum pump somewhere. it will collect lines and transfer to another point the 12v pump will assist the vaccum that already exists
    So if I'm reading you correctly this system will not function as an extractor/releaser as there needs to be vacuum on the pump out/lift line. In other words, the pump out/lift line needs to be connected to an extractor/releaser. Right?
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    You won't get 60 ft of lift off your vacuum, at least when your ladders are saturated. Each inch of vacuum, measured in Hg, is about a foot of sap. So you can't lift more than 30 ft of sap in ideal conditions. I have a vacuum guage on each side of a ladder and can see the difference when the sap is running. The difference moderates when the run slows and vacuum can slip by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralStark View Post
    So if I'm reading you correctly this system will not function as an extractor/releaser as there needs to be vacuum on the pump out/lift line. In other words, the pump out/lift line needs to be connected to an extractor/releaser. Right?
    this is designed to pull sap from a low spot to the rest of your woods within your system-its not an end point/extractor/seperator
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