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    Default 275 gallon caged tank: How bad is the sloshing when gathering?

    I've been using four 55 gallon barrels to gather, but am considering switching to a single caged tank to simplify things. I'd be towing it through the woods, on a two wheel trailer pulled by an old Farmall H.

    How big of an issue will sloshing be?

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    Well, it can be significant given the size. The fuller the better but Im sure ol bessy wont have too much an issue


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    It will slosh a lot, but just drive slowly and it will work fine. Between stops you will want to screw the cap on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maple flats View Post
    It will slosh a lot, but just drive slowly and it will work fine. Between stops you will want to screw the cap on.
    Thanks. Have you used one for this purpose yourself?

    I was planning to have the gatherers dump sap into a smaller container and pump into the tank, leaving everything set up as we drive along. I'd only be using the small hole in the top cover to run the hose into. I was thinking I'd lose a negligible amount of sap to splashing that way?

    The four barrels work fine used in a similar fashion, but it's switching between them and keeping track of how full they are that's the issue.

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    I use a 325 gallon tank behind an International 454. I travel a rough road and the sloshing isn't an issue. My trailer has really stiff springs on it and can take the weight. If your trailer does well with the 55 gallon barrels it should also do well with the cage tank.
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    I have a cage tank in the back of my truck, so not the safe surface conditions but sudden stops can make things interesting. A friend of mine whoo used to fish tuna said he would fill a container with water, put a lid on it and drop it in his hold to help steady the shifting ice and water. He told me I should do the same thing with a 2 or 5 gallon bucket. I don't feel like I need to do that, but I'm wondering if anyone had ever heard of anything like that.
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    SeanD. What he is referring to is creating a baffle of sorts. It would help if you ran it a lot less than full

    OP- I use mine in back of my pick up truck, a 275. Like I wrote before, its actually safer full than not. I have used it for two years and have not had any major issues, but the majority of my traveling is on dirt roads. I wouldnt hesitate to use it. Theyre super cheap and very easy to find. I have 4 of them in use


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanD View Post
    ...A friend of mine who used to fish tuna said he would fill a container with water, put a lid on it and drop it in his hold to help steady the shifting ice and water. He told me I should do the same thing with a 2 or 5 gallon bucket. I don't feel like I need to do that, but I'm wondering if anyone had ever heard of anything like that.
    I think he knows what he's talking about, although it would seem that several buckets would be even better. Earlier I found this on Youtube. The problem would be the expense of food grade hose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D_S8GxjTO4

    I plan to go ahead and use the tank without baffles. We'll only be driving at low speed in the woods and if splashing won't be an issue it should work well.

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    You should do fine with the H. Not many aluminum or plastic parts on that old girl. lol. Plenty of weight and pulling power there. Now if you said you had the small, off-set seat, cultivator unit (maybe an A?), I'd say wait just a minute...

    I used a cage tank for years in the back of a pick up and had a cut-down plastic barrel at bumper level for a "dumping station". Had a 12 volt boat bilge pump with a float switch in the barrel and it pumped the sap up and into the tank. It's no fun climbing up anywhere and trying to reach for and dump pails into the top opening on any tank. Takes the fun right out of it- I know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck3m View Post
    I think he knows what he's talking about, although it would seem that several buckets would be even better. Earlier I found this on Youtube. The problem would be the expense of food grade hose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D_S8GxjTO4

    I plan to go ahead and use the tank without baffles. We'll only be driving at low speed in the woods and if splashing won't be an issue it should work well.
    Great idea, any concern about food grade quality of the plastic?
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