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    I did a 12 X 16 offset. The steam goes directly up to the Cupola. Yes on trench drain. I have stovepipe 30" from back wall but it is triple walled other than the bottom 4 feet.. The only probably that I never considered, is with the arch insulated so well, it never gets above 50 degrees in there. I thought I would of had to leave the door and windows open at all times.
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    Looks like you have a good start on your design.
    Cement floor to drains at or under the arch work great.
    I go around the back of my arch many times a day. Cuts my number of foot steps in half and is just more convenient.
    Where is your head tank? In the back upper corner?
    Everything in the room is going to be wet from steam/ condensate unless your doing hoods to move the steam out?
    I would make the door to the wood shed larger.
    We have been in our sugarhouse to almost 20 years and it has worked out nice. You will love it.
    The area in front of you evaporator is going to be very busy. Think about people entering/ exiting.
    Regards,
    Chris
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    My walls are 10' high and even without a steam away or piggy back I use all of it. About the heat, in mine that all depends on the outside temp. Along with a 3x6 cupola, I also left 1" vents all around the entire roof, from the top plate and gable end tops to the steel roofing. If it is 30F outside and the fire is roaring hot when boiling, it seldom gets above 45-50 in there. Last week I was boiling when it go to 72F outside, it was over 100 in front of the arch. I was glad to be done and let the fire burn out when the sap was gone. My arch is well insulated, except the front. That may happen this summer unless I convert to propane tube burners, which I've been considering.
    Then I'd sell some firewood to buy the propane.
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    [QUOTE=SanfordSyrup;381146]Ive attached a rough rough draft of the sugar shack Id like to build. It is 16 x 16 with a 4 x 16 wood storage on the side. 6:12 roof slope. Housing a 2x4 evaporator. The cupola footprint is represented by the dashed line (not shown on the front view though). Im planning on pouring a slab for the floor in the main sugar house only.

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    This was our first year in our sugarhouse. We have a 3x10 evaporator and had it made so that it was all left hand draw off and float boxes so that we could push it off to the right side of the sugarhouse, for the custom work it was totally worth it. Its 24 off the wall on right side which gives us about 8 of canning room on the other side. We also put a 10 foot trench drain 16 from the left side (drawoff side) of evaporator, probably the best feature cause everything goes right into drain at end of night (except syrup).
    Sugarhouse is 16x28 total and has more than enough room for drums, canning, and an audience. We dont need a wood storage area, our firewood tank sits outside and is a phone call away 😁
    Best of luck
    Kevin

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    Make it at least 25% bigger than your planning- trust me!!
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    More firewood storage. My evaporator room is 14x16, and the firewood room is 14x12. I have a breezeway between and we've had to stack wood there too.

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    I would recommend pouring the wood shed floor too. I did not for the first few years but was glad when I did later. Easier to clean up the wood mess too.
    Regards,
    Chris
    Casbohm Maple and Honey
    600 roadside taps
    3x10 King, WRU, AOF and AUF
    12" SIRO Filter Press.
    2015 Ford F250 PSD sap hauler
    One Golden named Maggie Cat named Lucy
    Too many Cub Cadets
    Ford Jubilee and several Allis WD's, and IH tractors

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    when you come up with the final dimensions, double it. Then you'll only need to add on once later.
    2010 - 12 taps, turkey fryer, 4 quarts
    2011 - 24 taps, homemade arch from old water tank, 16"x24" flat pan, 16+ quarts
    2012 - 9 taps, 3 pints, what a season
    2013 - 60 taps, homemade oil tank arch with 2'x4' flat pan, 16"x24" finishing pan on electric range, 55 quarts
    2014 - 80 taps, homemade oil tank arch with 2'x4' flat pan, 16"x24" finishing pan on electric range, 40 quarts
    2015 - 100 taps, 15 gallons
    2016 - 115 taps, 13.5 gallons
    2017 - 120 taps, 13 gallons
    2018 - 130 taps, 11 gallons

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