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    Hey all, getting ready to start building our new firebox with a Carlin 102crd, 2x6 Arch and will be reverse fired. Question are the firebox guidelines from Carlins book the same for reverse fired? From the book my firebox will 32" Deep X 16" High X 18" wide with the centerline of the burner 7.5" down from bottom of pan. Do these numbers sound correct. I'll be firing between 3.25-4.0 GPH. Thanks for any help!
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    Alright i guess ill post pics and let you know if it worked or not.
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    2013 135 Taps 35 on Gravity, 100 on Buckets 11 Gallons Made
    2014 310 Taps 75 on Sureflo 4048, 235 on Buckets, 16'x16' Sugarshack, 5" Filter Press, 2x6 Smoky Lake Hybrid Pan (SOLD) 23 Gallons made
    2015 315 Taps, 17 on Sureflo 4008, 62 on Sureflo 4048, 236 on Buckets 31.25 Gallons Made
    2016 New Northwoods Stainless Finisher and Steamhood
    2017 325 Taps 34 Gallons Made
    2018 150 Taps New Northwoods Stainless 2x6 Raised Flue w/ Air Tight Arch 40+ Gallons Made

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    I dont have a rig that is reverse fired or oil fired even but I would think that you would want the gun lower on a reverse fire so that your flame goes forward and then gets pulled up and backward towards your flu pan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n8hutch View Post
    I dont have a rig that is reverse fired or oil fired even but I would think that you would want the gun lower on a reverse fire so that your flame goes forward and then gets pulled up and backward towards your flu pan.
    Hey Nate, that's kinda what I'm thinking. The only good pictures i've seen on here are of Dale Sparrows rig but i don't see any dimensions and he hasn't been on the trader for some time. I built a uni-strut frame so i can move the burner up or down easy. I'll post dimensions when I figure out what works best for my rig.
    2013 135 Taps 35 on Gravity, 100 on Buckets 11 Gallons Made
    2014 310 Taps 75 on Sureflo 4048, 235 on Buckets, 16'x16' Sugarshack, 5" Filter Press, 2x6 Smoky Lake Hybrid Pan (SOLD) 23 Gallons made
    2015 315 Taps, 17 on Sureflo 4008, 62 on Sureflo 4048, 236 on Buckets 31.25 Gallons Made
    2016 New Northwoods Stainless Finisher and Steamhood
    2017 325 Taps 34 Gallons Made
    2018 150 Taps New Northwoods Stainless 2x6 Raised Flue w/ Air Tight Arch 40+ Gallons Made

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    I have heard that the magic number is one foot below the pan for the gun position? I have nothing to back that up except for gut feel and it sounds about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarmaker View Post
    I have heard that the magic number is one foot below the pan for the gun position? I have nothing to back that up except for gut feel and it sounds about right.
    Regards,
    Chris
    Perfect! I'll start with that and we can go from there! Thanks
    2013 135 Taps 35 on Gravity, 100 on Buckets 11 Gallons Made
    2014 310 Taps 75 on Sureflo 4048, 235 on Buckets, 16'x16' Sugarshack, 5" Filter Press, 2x6 Smoky Lake Hybrid Pan (SOLD) 23 Gallons made
    2015 315 Taps, 17 on Sureflo 4008, 62 on Sureflo 4048, 236 on Buckets 31.25 Gallons Made
    2016 New Northwoods Stainless Finisher and Steamhood
    2017 325 Taps 34 Gallons Made
    2018 150 Taps New Northwoods Stainless 2x6 Raised Flue w/ Air Tight Arch 40+ Gallons Made

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    Firebox before the 1" ceramic blanket. Oil tank is mounted, fuel line run. Almost time for test fire.
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    2013 135 Taps 35 on Gravity, 100 on Buckets 11 Gallons Made
    2014 310 Taps 75 on Sureflo 4048, 235 on Buckets, 16'x16' Sugarshack, 5" Filter Press, 2x6 Smoky Lake Hybrid Pan (SOLD) 23 Gallons made
    2015 315 Taps, 17 on Sureflo 4008, 62 on Sureflo 4048, 236 on Buckets 31.25 Gallons Made
    2016 New Northwoods Stainless Finisher and Steamhood
    2017 325 Taps 34 Gallons Made
    2018 150 Taps New Northwoods Stainless 2x6 Raised Flue w/ Air Tight Arch 40+ Gallons Made

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    Got the rig fired up Saturday night and all i can say is awesome! Dumped 30 gals of 30 something degree water in the pans and fired her off. Full rolling boil in 7 mins! I get exact dimensions of the firebox tonight.
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    2013 135 Taps 35 on Gravity, 100 on Buckets 11 Gallons Made
    2014 310 Taps 75 on Sureflo 4048, 235 on Buckets, 16'x16' Sugarshack, 5" Filter Press, 2x6 Smoky Lake Hybrid Pan (SOLD) 23 Gallons made
    2015 315 Taps, 17 on Sureflo 4008, 62 on Sureflo 4048, 236 on Buckets 31.25 Gallons Made
    2016 New Northwoods Stainless Finisher and Steamhood
    2017 325 Taps 34 Gallons Made
    2018 150 Taps New Northwoods Stainless 2x6 Raised Flue w/ Air Tight Arch 40+ Gallons Made

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    Had our first boil last night and it performed awesome! 160 Gallons in 3 hrs or so! Here is a pic of my control panel!

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    2013 135 Taps 35 on Gravity, 100 on Buckets 11 Gallons Made
    2014 310 Taps 75 on Sureflo 4048, 235 on Buckets, 16'x16' Sugarshack, 5" Filter Press, 2x6 Smoky Lake Hybrid Pan (SOLD) 23 Gallons made
    2015 315 Taps, 17 on Sureflo 4008, 62 on Sureflo 4048, 236 on Buckets 31.25 Gallons Made
    2016 New Northwoods Stainless Finisher and Steamhood
    2017 325 Taps 34 Gallons Made
    2018 150 Taps New Northwoods Stainless 2x6 Raised Flue w/ Air Tight Arch 40+ Gallons Made

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