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    Default Pressure gauge needed when using air pump?

    I'm sure I'm missing something but kind of confused here. I'm setting up a new diaphragm pump and wondering why I need a pressure gauge.

    If an air pump will "dead head" (stop pumping) at whatever pressure it is being supplied (in my case 50 PSI) is a pressure gauge needed on the filter press when the max pressure allowed on the press is 50 PSI?

    In other words... if the press gets totally blocked up; can it possibly exceed 50 lbs if the pump stops pumping?

    Thanks for any info- John
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    Probably not, but it helps with knowing how the filter papers are doing. IT gives a little warning when papers need to be changed.
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    I ran mine without a gauge (actually it had a gauge but it was broken) and with the pressure from the compressor not regulated. When the pressure got too high the syrup would squirt out from between the plates. It wasn't fun washing the syrup off of the RO room ceiling. If you're regulating the pressure at 50 psi you really don't need one but it's nice to have.
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    Thanks.

    It's a Clear Press, so I can see what's going on with papers. I was more concerned about needing a gauge to see if it was going beyond 50 psi.

    Brian -I hadn't considered installing one to be able to see pressure climb, but that's an excellent idea and for that reason I will.
    Russ- "Washing syrup off the ceiling" brought back memories of some of Haynes' adventures...

    thanks both of you.
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    John Allin

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    06' Gator HPX to collect wood & sap
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    I also use and find it very helpful to have an air valve right before at the pump. My compressor runs at 135 psi in another building (my shop), an air tube, 3/4" runs under ground to the sugarhouse. I regulate the air pressure where the air enters the pump. It is a small simple regulator mini valve. My filter press is recommended to run at 40 psi max, I regulate that with the mini regulator. I also have a mini shut off ball valve there too, I use that to turn the pump on and off. The compressor in my shop is turned on at the beginning of the day and off at the end, but since my power main panel is in the sugarhouse, I can and do at times shut the shop off from there by cutting the breaker feeding the shop (a 100A 240V breaker).
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnallin View Post
    Thanks.

    It's a Clear Press so I can see what's going on with papers. I was more concerned about needing a gauge to see if it was going beyond 50 psi.

    Brian -I hadn't considered installing one to be able to see pressure climb, but that's an excellent idea and for that reason I will.
    Russ- "Washing syrup off the ceiling" brought back memories of some of Haynes' adventures...

    thanks both of you.
    I figured that you had a clear press. I saw that they were rated for 55 psi max. That was one of the reasons that I went with a Wes Fab full stack press instead. If you haven't run a press with a diaphragm pump before you're going to love how you can control the speed and syrup flow with the inlet valve instead of a bypass like the gear pump presses.
    Russ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Lampron View Post
    I figured that you had a clear press... If you haven't run a press with a diaphragm pump before you're going to love how you can control the speed and syrup flow with the inlet valve instead of a bypass like the gear pump presses.
    Thank you. I've been running this press for 5 years now, it's great...and you're right about total control with air vs. gear pump.
    I'm upgrading the pump from aluminum to stainless this year.
    John Allin

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    Leader 2x6 w/Patriot Raised Flue Pan 2009
    Leader Steam Hood 2014 - Clear Filter Press 2015
    Leader Revolution Pan and SS Pre-Heater 2016
    CDL Hobby RO & Air Tech L25 Hi Vac Pump 2019
    06' Gator HPX to collect wood & sap
    14' Ski-Doo Tundra for winter work in the woods
    Great Family 3 grown kids+spouses and 7 grand kids who like the woods
    7th Gen Born in Canada - Raised in Chardon Ohio - Maple Capital of the World..<grin>.

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