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    Do you think this pump is food grade? https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-dc...gph-63324.html
    it says it for water for house so I assume drinking water.
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    I haven't tried this one yet but just stumbled across it and it may be worth a look. According to the ad, it conforms to NSF/ANSI standards for drinking water and lead free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdircksen View Post
    So is think pump food grade? https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-dc...gph-63324.html
    it says it for water for house so I assume drinking water.
    I've seen this pump under several brand names. I don't recall any of the listings claiming "drinking water safe" though. What's nice is that it's 3/4 garden hose threads with 4.8 gpm flow rate (I use RV drinking water hoses with 3/4 garden hose threads), and a high lift - 40ft - capability. A big limiting factor on the drinking water diaphragm pumps is that they are almost all 1/2 threads. I've found that bilge pumps have little to no lift capability (I have one I can't use for that reason).

    I'm still looking at the brew pumps. The March pumps look good, but at a price. Many transfer with pumps not specifically rated as food grade without any issues (bought new, never used for any other purpose). But for those purists among us, the options for portable high capacity food grade pumps are limited.
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    I have one of these (Harbor Freight) I use for draining hot water tanks. The impeller is a black rubber star type. If they run dry for any period of time they shred off little pieces of the rubber. You can smell it and will see it. I would not use for sap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarmaker View Post
    Contact time being a factor too. How has the lead test results looked on your syrup?
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    The original question of the post is searching for a "food grade" pump option. The bilge pump won't fall into that "food grade" classification.

    I understand contact time and fluid temperature have a great deal to do with contamination coming out of plastics. I wouldn't be concerned about using that bilge pump for my own personal use or consumption. I actually use an imported submersible 12v pump for pumping out my 55gal drums. It works great and it is easy to power off of my tractor. It moves around 5 gallons a minute pumping cold sap out of a drum through a 5/8" garden hose.
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    Update: I have settled on the brew pump on the first page as a feed pump for my RO. For a transfer pump I ordered the Simer 2825ss as the manual states it can be used in potable water applications (not all the stainless steel booster pumps state that).
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    I will be very curious to know how you like the Simer. Specs look good. While not specifically stated for potable water in the general usage, they site safety precautions to follow when pumping potable water from a well. I like the 1" inlet/outlet, max 10gpm capacity. I will probably get the brew pump first though.
    Gary / Zena Crossroads / 42˚ 00' 24" N / Hobby in Early '70s, Addiction since 2014

    175+ taps on 3/16 (60 of which are on two Lunchbox Vac/Releasers)
    12x34 timber framed sap house w/attached 10x34 shed roof for storage
    2 x 6 Smoky Lake hybrid pan on Corsair arch with AUF/steam hood/preheater/concentric exhaust
    7.0 KW Sun Power PV System, Smokey Lake Filter Press/Steam Bottler, Modified NGMP RO - 2 4x40 posts 200 gph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghs57 View Post
    I will be very curious to know how you like the Simer. Specs look good. While not specifically stated for potable water in the general usage, they site safety precautions to follow when pumping potable water from a well. I like the 1" inlet/outlet, max 10gpm capacity. I will probably get the brew pump first though.
    There was another section in the manual that said it could be used to replace a house well pump. Pairing that section with the one you stated I think we can infer potable water use with good certainty. Also I have read other manuals of stainless booster pumps that specifically said to not use in potable water applications as well as manuals that did not state one way or the other.

    I have to pump about 20 ft uphill to get to the sugar kitchen. I will let you know how it performs.
    Camp Wokanda
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    2023 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, sap storage shack w/ 1100 gallon tank - 123 gallons
    2022 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, homemade vac filter & water jacket canner - 104 gallons
    2021 - 215 on 3/16 shurflo, added 2nd membrane to RO - 78 gallons
    2020 - 210 on 3/16 shurflo, upgraded hp pump on RO - 66 gallons
    2019 - 150 on 3/16 shurflo, Deer Run 125 dolly RO - 73 gallons
    2018 - 120 on 3/16 shurflo, 2x6 raised flue w/hood, homemade arch w/ AUF & AOF - 34.5 gallons

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    I picked up a 120v Chugger brew pump, rated at 7 gpm (downhill maybe), but disappointed with the results. I have to pump 50 feet away and up about 10 feet, but this is not the pump for that. My 12v Shurflo is faster at 3.5 gpm. It's a nice pump, very quiet, but these little 1/2 inch pumps just can't handle lifting that high or that distance. I'll find another use for it in the saphouse.
    Gary / Zena Crossroads / 42˚ 00' 24" N / Hobby in Early '70s, Addiction since 2014

    175+ taps on 3/16 (60 of which are on two Lunchbox Vac/Releasers)
    12x34 timber framed sap house w/attached 10x34 shed roof for storage
    2 x 6 Smoky Lake hybrid pan on Corsair arch with AUF/steam hood/preheater/concentric exhaust
    7.0 KW Sun Power PV System, Smokey Lake Filter Press/Steam Bottler, Modified NGMP RO - 2 4x40 posts 200 gph

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