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    This year was the first I've used them. They are harder to remove than any other spout I've used, but that might not be a bad thing. And I'll have to agree that they are a little more troublesome to work with since they are not at a 90 degree. 90's are easier to work with in my opinion.

    Is everyone who is using them seeing an increase in sap volume with the signatures? Other than breakage with another manufacturer, why did you switch to them? I don't have mechanical vacuum and only a little bit of natural vacuum on 3/16th's and they seemed comparable with other spouts I've used. But, maybe this lousy season wasn't really good for any sort of comparison.

    Anyone really not happy with them, and why?

    Steve
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    Mine popped right out with a removal tool no problem, even the ones my wife drove in like she was pounding in 16 penny nails.

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    ....even the ones my wife drove in like she was pounding in 16 penny nails.
    Definitely NOT a good thing for sap yield. Get her a lighter hammer for your anniversary.

    https://mapleresearch.org/pub/overdrive2020/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucket Head View Post
    They are harder to remove than any other spout I've used, but that might not be a bad thing.
    Polycarbonate spouts "stick" in the tree better than nylon does, probably because they absorb less moisture from the taphole and air.
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    I really like them. The polycarbonate sticks in the tree well. The friction of the plastic on wood seems greater than nylon and the thinner walls give a bit of spring against the tap hole. They seem less likely to split the tap hole and may be a bit more forgiving on a slightly out of round hole. Not that I ever have any of those. They hold the drop well. We push on by hand in the shop ahead of time without trouble. We still have some bags and the 45 fits through the hole in the holder and flange holds empty bags on on windy days.

    I don't think the 45° angle makes any difference in flow, but overall they are the best spiles I have used.
    John
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    Quote Originally Posted by KReinisch View Post
    Who uses them? Pros and Cons... worried about the 45 degree angle and tubing tool.
    The thinner they get the more prone to pin holes they are. That goes with any spout though. I will personally never use another again with the issues I have had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins View Post
    Definitely NOT a good thing for sap yield. Get her a lighter hammer for your anniversary.

    https://mapleresearch.org/pub/overdrive2020/
    LOL! I do almost all the tapping and I have to remind her every year just to tap them in until they seat, but when I talk to her it's like Charlie Brown's teacher. I use small florescent orange dead blow hammers, I don't lose them under the snow that way.

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