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    Default Deer run ro

    Ordered a deer run 500 ro from ray today. Got the gas powered version since i dont have the power supply figured out for the new sugarhouse yet. Super excited to not boil raw sap on the oil evaporator.
    And body out there have this size? And if you do, how is the performance on it
    Thanks
    Kevin

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    lots traded in over the years. under performs dollar per gallon. most complaints is lower gph than expected and lower sugar output. but it serves the purposea nd faster than raw
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    Ya it will get me started for a year or two, untill i can afford a big one like a real sugarmaker lol
    Plus i plan on using off site at another woods that is remote without power, so i can sweet and then run through another pass with future purchase ro.

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    How’s the new sugar house coming along Kevin?

    Bet you’re all excited to get in there and start cooking.

    You gonna call your dad and uncle Mark out of retirement to help?

    Fred’s probably got a Leader Clear press he can show you...
    He really likes those babies. grin
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    Hey john,
    Sugarhouse is just about done, working on windows and doors now. Evaporator and tanks coming in about 2-3 weeks.....hopefully.

    Dad has helped some with the work, he still knows how to do it 😆.

    As far as those clear presses go..........


    Quote Originally Posted by johnallin View Post
    How’s the new sugar house coming along Kevin?

    Bet you’re all excited to get in there and start cooking.

    You gonna call your dad and uncle Mark out of retirement to help?

    Fred’s probably got a Leader Clear press he can show you...
    He really likes those babies. grin

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    I have never used or seen a clear press so please fill me in. My curiosity is peaked. lol
    Last edited by Ultimatetreehugger; 10-19-2019 at 07:09 PM.
    Remember to keep on ticking while the sap is dripping.
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    For a basic RO I think they work well. I only have a 250 which started as a gas unit, but I later got electric in the sugaqrhouse so I converted it to electric. I can take 2% sap to 7-8% concentrate fine. I then run it thru recirculating from the head tank and back into the head tank. The best I routinely get is to 12% sugar. That second pass removes less permeate than the first pass.
    To use it I run at 275 PSI on the first pass, on the second pass I run at 240-250 psi. The pressure will gradually climb and I turn it back to those settings. I have goon higher a few times, but I didn't like that. One time I was recirculating while I was doing other things around the sugarhouse and it shut down on high pressure after having turned it back a few times. That time I had 18% concentrate, but I had to run a cold permeate rinse before I could RO any more sap, the membranes were fouled. My unit has 2 membranes at 4" x 40", yours likely will be Ray's newer version with 1 membrane at 8" x40".
    If you would like a copy of my reprint of Ray's hand written manual send me an email requesting the manual to dave@cnymaple.com
    I have been using this mine since 2012. Just clean the membranes properly and it will serve you well.
    I do not depend on the feed pump on mine, I get better performance using a SS 1 hp electric pump. The electric pump feeds the feed pump on the RO, that works best for me.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    I think you will be quite happy with it. Great unit for the price.
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    2019 - 150 on 3/16 shurflo, Deer Run 125 dolly RO - 73 gallons
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    I had one of Ray's electric 375 units as my first ro. It worked fantastic. I was happy with it.
    1000 taps on vac down to 100+ buckets 99% sugars
    2x5 SL Hi-Output Raised Flue Corsair evaporator
    SL Short bank press with CDL diaphragm pump
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    2010:36 gal 2011:126 gal 2012:81 gal 2013:248 gal 2014: 329.5 gal 2015:305 gal 2016:316 gal 2017:258 gal 2018:147 gal 2019:91 gal 2020:30 gal 2021:30 gal 2023:50 gal Total since 2010: 2047.5 gal
    Tapping the same trees my great, great and great grandfathers tapped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kh7722 View Post
    as far as those clear presses go..........
    some of the most beautiful words ive heard today. "biggest grin"
    Fred Ahrens
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    LaPierre Dealer
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    Service Tech/repair for all brands and electronics

    don't take life too serious, nobody gets out alive anyways!

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