Dr. Tim Perkins
UVM Proctor Maple Research Ctr
http://www.uvm.edu/~pmrc
https://mapleresearch.org
Timothy.Perkins@uvm.edu
I carry at Glock 40 cal. With the cheapest rounds known to man. My old woods were I grow up my mother tangled with a Rabid fox while doing chores and I have been checking or turning off vacuum pumps at night with coyotes close enough where I can hear there paws crunch crisp snow and the little yips they make to communicate with the pack. We started hunting them last winter end up with 7 big coyotes. Some raccoons taking a late night skinny dip in the sweet water and I even take shots at the red squirrels. Every red squirrel I get rid of 5 show up it seems. Beech nuts and hickory nuts are plentiful this year and so are the squirrels!
2019:250 gallons
2020:324 gallons
2021:?
So a friend says to me the other day
"you know how to identify bear scat?"
"it's got little bits of air horns in it and smells like pepper spray".......................hehe Jay
Zucker Lager
I'd be willing to make a bet and a good one ... say 500 gallons of good quality syrup .... that more sugar makers have been killed in the woods by falling tree limbs then wild animals.
So with that said ... and it be your personal safety in the woods your concerned about, I recommend a hard hat first and then maybe think about the slick side piece.
It just makes good mathematical sense.
As for me ... no hard hat and no side piece or spray can. I just take my chances.
If you think it's easy to make good money in maple syrup .... then your obviously good at stealing somebody's Maple Syrup.
Favorite Tree: Sugar Maple
Most Hated Animal: Sap Sucker
Most Loved Animal: Devon Rex Cat
Favorite Kingpin: Bruce Bascom
40 Sugar Maple Taps ... 23 in CT and 17 in NY .... 29 on gravity tubing and 11 on 5G buckets ... 2019 Totals 508 gallons of sap, 7 boils, 11.4 gallons of syrup.
1 Girlfriend that gives away all my syrup to her friends.
It becomes even harder to make money at all in syrup when it is all given away.
Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.
Last year while walking alone in my woods through some chest high grass, brush, and weeds in the middle of the day,, I stepped on a wet 45 degree root which caused me to spin and fall on my back. I was not hurt and laid there briefly laughing at my self. When I stood up I came face to face with 3 huge coyotes as startled as I was, 2 or 3 more lurked in the distance. I grabbed the only stick within reach and swung at them while also yelling. The stick broke in half , I fell again, got up yelling at them and they were moving away now and despaired like a deer. The only time I felt I needed one but really didn't. I carry to much stuff to also carry an handgun, but I usually have my dogs with me most of the time and they run anything off.
44 27'08/71 27'56
300 totalish taps 250 on tube and bosworth sap sucker
50 bucket and bags about 40-50 gallons a season
on a 2 by 7 home made evaporator and sugar shack
1st gen circa 1966 still learning stuff
I carry a .22 in the woods mainly to dispatch the odd squirrel I happen to catch at ground level.
Raccoons too, if they’re up around the house or barn.
No bear or big cats in these parts and the two legged critters are of the neighborly variety.
Coyotes a-plenty here. Never had a problem with them.
Still, when the wife and I are out playing with the telescopes at night there’s a 12 ga nearby to cover our retreat back to the house, if need be.
Had a pack of at least 4 stroll by within 30 yards of us one night.
They never broke stride, just kept right on going.
We went back to looking at stars, once the neck hairs settled back down.
42.67N 84.02W
350 taps- 300 on vacuum, 50 buckets
JD gator 625i Sap hauler w/65 gal tank
Leader 2X6 drop flue
Homemade auto draw-off
Homemade preheater
Homebrew RO, 2- xle-4040's
LaPierre double vertical releaser
Kinney KC-8 vacuum pump
12X24 shack
Lots of chickens and a few cats.
I think something to note is folks who carry year round, not just in the woods. ME, NH, VT all have constitutional carry laws so many folks at least in my neck of the sugar woods carry regardless. I’m sure there is many other states that allow permit carry who do the same.
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Mead Maple "It's for the kids..."
Paul Cerminara
2019 - First season ever
-Goal: 3 gallons
-Season Total: 7.5 gallons - pulled taps after running out of firewood and time
2020
Built 2'x8' Oil Fired with Thor drop flue pans
-Goal: 20 gallons
-Season Total: 55 gallons
Late to the thread here, but I'll add my 2 cents. Like many of you, I've spent the past 35 years in the woods of the Northeast...hiking, hunting, camping, rock climbing, mtn. biking, snowshoeing, cross country skiing, trail running, logging, mushrooming and looking for ramps, and yes...sugaring. I've not had a single experience where I felt a firearm would have made a difference. They can certainly make you feel a whole lot better at times. So no....I do not carry one in the sugarbush. I do cary one on occasion if I venture out into the backcountry where I may encounter moose. Last year my 2 labs got behind a bull and they chased it in my direction. It came crashing through the brush right at me. I was running and drawing my .44 mag looking for a tree to get behind. The bull finally saw me at 15 yards and stopped dead in its tracks and ran off in another direction. In the end I never needed the pistol. But in that moment, I was sure glad I had it on me that day.
16x24 Timber Frame Sugar House
Mason 2x4 Evaporator
90 trees on buckets
I have never carried while sapping.
But like the old saying goes, you'd rather have it and not need it then not have it and need it.