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    Default Pro and con on stubby adapter

    Iím adding a few hundred more taps this year and I have been thinking to the stubby adapters to save some time. And my old taps should be all replaced. What is the proís and conís of the stubby adapter?
    2011 55gallon drum evaporator 25 buckets;2012 shanty, and 2 1/2x8 evaporator, 200 buckets;2013 400 buckets; 2014 752 buckets 250gph RO, filter press;2015 1000 taps on line ; 2016 sold equipment, sold sap; 2017 sold sap; 2018 logged woods, added another sugar bush, 250 taps on high vac, 2x6 leader with max flu, new MES dolly 300, made 138 gal syrup; 2019 new CDL 600 expandable, new Wes filter press , bigger generator, 500 taps made 110 gal syrup; 2020 800 taps new vacuum pump.

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    I have used then and have found them to be a pain at end of season when I was trying to take off the spouts.
    110 taps W.F Mason 2x3 and two turkey friers for finishing

    2011 expanding to a Mason 2x4 with a blower increasing taps to about 200
    2011 Hurricane Irene rips thru my small sugar bush cost me to lose 20% of taps
    2014 I have reworked my lines for 2014
    32 taps on 5/16 line with check valves
    57 taps on 3/16 line with check valves
    55 buckets with total tapped trees of 144

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    I've used the stubby and adapter and find that I like the one piece seasonal spout better. There's no chance of the spout and adapter getting pushed apart on a hard freeze and something new goes into the tree every year.
    Russ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Lampron View Post
    I've used the stubby and adapter and find that I like the one piece seasonal spout better. There's no chance of the spout and adapter getting pushed apart on a hard freeze and something new goes into the tree every year.
    I was thinking of throwing the adapter away that goes into the tree every year and start with a fresh one when Iím ready to tap
    2011 55gallon drum evaporator 25 buckets;2012 shanty, and 2 1/2x8 evaporator, 200 buckets;2013 400 buckets; 2014 752 buckets 250gph RO, filter press;2015 1000 taps on line ; 2016 sold equipment, sold sap; 2017 sold sap; 2018 logged woods, added another sugar bush, 250 taps on high vac, 2x6 leader with max flu, new MES dolly 300, made 138 gal syrup; 2019 new CDL 600 expandable, new Wes filter press , bigger generator, 500 taps made 110 gal syrup; 2020 800 taps new vacuum pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calvertbrothers View Post
    I was thinking of throwing the adapter away that goes into the tree every year and start with a fresh one when I’m ready to tap
    That's what I used to do. I prefer the one piece throw away taps. I can see through them which really helps when I'm looking for vacuum leaks and there's one less place for a potential leak.
    Russ

    "Red Roof Maples" Where the term "boiling soda" was first introduced to the maple producing world!

    Algier 2x6 evaporator, W F Mason arch
    Lapierre 250 Turbo RO machine
    SP-22 vacuum pump
    1930 Ford Model AA Doodlebug tractor
    1971 IH 454 52hp diesel tractor
    A couple of Honda 4 wheelers
    About a dozen chainsaws and no chickens

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    I use them with the clear checkvalves. Saves a lot of time when tapping and haven't had any vac issues. Just remember to seat the tap before attaching the stubby. Do not tap the stubby into the tap. Push and twist 90 deg.
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    I've used lapierre and and leader stubby spots in my woods (5K plus taps) without issue. I've prefer the new Lapierre 5/16" (blue or green) teardrop style over the bulky 7/16" black ones. I find the seasonal spout adapters are usually cheaper, provides a new clean spout for the taphole, and is much faster tapping the woods. Yes one or two may separate during a hard freeze, but that because I don't drive them hard together when tapping. (Otherwise you'll be spending a lot of time at the end of the season separating them. Time saved tapping vs pressing new seasonal spouts on drops in freezing weather is my main reason. Plus your fingers will thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corrowbasin View Post
    I've used lapierre and and leader stubby spots in my woods (5K plus taps) without issue. I've prefer the new Lapierre 5/16" (blue or green) teardrop style over the bulky 7/16" black ones. I find the seasonal spout adapters are usually cheaper, provides a new clean spout for the taphole, and is much faster tapping the woods. Yes one or two may separate during a hard freeze, but that because I don't drive them hard together when tapping. (Otherwise you'll be spending a lot of time at the end of the season separating them. Time saved tapping vs pressing new seasonal spouts on drops in freezing weather is my main reason. Plus your fingers will thank you.
    Thank you, I was thinking the same thing cutting time and faster the fallowing next couple of years. Just heard people not being able to get the adapters off. But Iím leaning towards getting them.
    2011 55gallon drum evaporator 25 buckets;2012 shanty, and 2 1/2x8 evaporator, 200 buckets;2013 400 buckets; 2014 752 buckets 250gph RO, filter press;2015 1000 taps on line ; 2016 sold equipment, sold sap; 2017 sold sap; 2018 logged woods, added another sugar bush, 250 taps on high vac, 2x6 leader with max flu, new MES dolly 300, made 138 gal syrup; 2019 new CDL 600 expandable, new Wes filter press , bigger generator, 500 taps made 110 gal syrup; 2020 800 taps new vacuum pump.

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    We cut our stubbies off 4 years ago and use a straight clear disposable at 13 cents each. Easy to install, way less maintenance after a hard freeze and no regrets.
    3,100 taps
    60 cfm flood
    HC2
    5 by 14 oil

    Brian

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