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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce L View Post
    Can there be too much air in the flue pan? Before I had the steam away on the boils would jump right out of the flue pan periodically,now with steam away on boils can’t jump out,but are certainly spitting sap all over the place
    Yes there can be too much air in the flue pan. If I have too much air going through mine the sap will be splashed into the hood and then run down into the drip channels and out. The way that the float box on my flue pan is designed the turbulence from too much air makes the float bounce around and the sap level in the pan hard to regulate. That turbulence also makes sap splash out of the float box and burn onto the side of the arch.
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    Russ, Do you know what size the outlet holes are on your "Bubble Master"?

    On the H20 Air Injector they're maybe 1/16" and I'm beginning to think that may be too small, as it doesn't take much air volume before it's acting like a water-jet.
    Never gave that a thought until this thread started. It seems that more air is better, but there's a world of difference between what 1/16" and 1/8" can deliver.

    BTW - Thanks for all of the info you've posted over the years on your Bubble Master...it inspired me to an air injection system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnallin View Post
    Russ, Do you know what size the outlet holes are on your "Bubble Master"?

    On the H20 Air Injector they're maybe 1/16" and I'm beginning to think that may be too small, as it doesn't take much air volume before it's acting like a water-jet.
    Never gave that a thought until this thread started. It seems that more air is better, but there's a world of difference between what 1/16" and 1/8" can deliver.

    BTW - Thanks for all of the info you've posted over the years on your Bubble Master...it inspired me to an air injection system.
    My holes are 1/16" too and they're spaced 1" apart. I copied a bubbler that they had at Bascom's when I made mine.
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    I need to check, but pretty sure mine are 2 to 3" apart. Thanks
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    Once you get the air flow set does it need adjustment for later season Syrup that boils totally different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce L View Post
    Once you get the air flow set does it need adjustment for later season Syrup that boils totally different?
    No, once you get it fine tuned you leave it where it's set. Later in the season you'll need to use more defoamer but that's it.
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    Got my bubbler system from H2O delivered tonight,but there are no tubes for the syrup pan,just the flue pan. Shouldn’t the system be in both pans?
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    Bruce,
    Mine is made for both flue and syrup pans, but after a season, not really convinced that I need the syrup pan tubes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce L View Post
    Got my bubbler system from H2O delivered tonight,but there are no tubes for the syrup pan,just the flue pan. Shouldn’t the system be in both pans?
    Maybe you have to order the ones for the syrup pan(s) separately. They would need to be made for the different pan configurations and sizes. You don't really need them in the syrup pan(s), they are most beneficial in the flue pan.

    When I made mine I made one for the syrup pan and it really helps keep the foam knocked down. I don't use very much defoamer anymore and it does keep the nitre suspended too.
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