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    Quote Originally Posted by emericksmaple View Post
    Does anyone out there store their maple syrup in a bulk tank?
    You're welcome to come out to the Chardon store to see what we have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    You're welcome to come out to the Chardon store to see what we have.
    Are you using a nitrogen blanket for sap storage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberwolf View Post
    Are you using a nitrogen blanket for sap storage?
    no nitrogen at all. we just have syrup storage.
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    Would a vacuum tank seal tight enough to utilize the nitrogen blanket instead of putting the tank under vacuum?
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    I'm really not sure why we're overthinking all this. Besides if you get your vacuum too high you're just gonna boil the syrup
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    I'm really not sure why we're overthinking all this. Besides if you get your vacuum too high you're just gonna boil the syrup
    I agree. Recommendations for sap storage are to keep it cold and process it quickly for optimum quality. Doing anything beyond that just adds complexity and cost for unknown and likely limited benefit. Syrup storage recommendations are to hot pack. A nitrogen blanket "might" be (probably is to some degree) useful in reducing microbial growth (UV lights might do the same if the syrup were constantly stirred) and darkening (due to oxidation), but is complex, can be costly (to do it correctly), and carries some danger (you'd want to have good lock out/tag out procedures before anyone entered those tanks). Thus it is only feasible for really large packers (and relatively few of them do it). Keeping syrup under vacuum also adds cost, complexity, and is likely of limited benefit to the vast majority of producers....not to mention the fact that (as Fred notes), it could cause the syrup to boil in the container.
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    It seems like bulk storage would require an effort and cost that you need to weigh against the benefits. And I'm not sure I understand the benefits since you need to handle it again and reheat the syrup for final bottling.

    On nitrogen - I recall that when I was in highschool (long time ago) a classmate died of asphyxiation from entering a nitogen rich confined space - maybe a box trailer or something. I didn't really know the guy so I don't remember the details or his name but the concern for hazardous atmospheres stuck with me. I'm pretty certain the nitrogen wasn't for maple storage but some other industrial use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    I'm really not sure why we're overthinking all this. Besides if you get your vacuum too high you're just gonna boil the syrup
    Solution...filter with a Leader Clear Press and not worry how it's stored...<big GRIN>
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    Dammit john!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    Dammit john!!!
    Couldn't resit... you walked right into it. <HUGE GRIN>
    Just remember,,, "dont take life too serious, nobody gets out alive anyways"...you'll be OK.

    Anyway, it's feeling pretty good to have the boat put away and be back into Maple.
    Like I say.. I go from the water to the woods every year.
    Let 2023 season begin can't wait to get started back up.
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