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    Default Ro sizing

    Any literature out there on sizing an ro? I'm at just under 2000 taps but expect to be at 8000 in the next few years. I sell/ truck all my sap and want to make one trip a day to the sugar house with my 1000 gallon tank. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
    2016- 50 buckets. Made 4 gallons
    2017- 100 buckets, 50 taps on 3/4 mainline and 3/16th tubing + shurflo vacuum. Made 30 gallons.
    2018- 1000 taps on 3/16 + vacuum, 60 buckets - made 378 gallons of syrup.
    2019- 1713 taps on 3/16 + vacuum, NO buckets. Made 500 gallons.

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    I would get a 2 post expandable. I have one for sale that does 20+ @1300 gal/hr. That would help you now and later. But at 8000 taps that will 2500 gallons of concentrate
    Fred Ahrens
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    Richards Maple Products
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    dont take life too serious, nobody gets out alive anyways

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    You do not want to R.O. ahead unless you can keep the concentrate cold. When you concentrate the sap you also concentrate the micro-organisms and you raise the temperature. Unless you can cool the concentrate down it will spoil quickly. Proctor concentrates to about 35% sugar and cools the concentrate to about 25-26F.
    You would need to cool it to just above a temperature when slush starts to form to hold it for a day or 2, less if just holding for a few hours, but it still needs to be cooled or you will lose some sugar and make darker syrup. The exact temp you would need depends on how much you concentrate and how long you will hold it until you boil it.
    Another point, would you have power to run an R.O. where you collect the sap, an R.O. is power hungry.
    Dave Klish about 1320 taps in '15, down to about 700 in '16, up to 1000 for 2019?
    2012 Mahindra 36 HP 4x4/ loader/cab/heat/AC:-)
    added a gooseneck equipment trailer and F350 to tow it to haul more sap
    3x8 raised flue evaporator
    250 GPH converted to electric, RO by Ray Gingerich
    6.32 KW solar system, 1.48KW is battery backed up, all net metered
    http://s1041.photobucket.com/albums/...anssugarhouse/
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    many of the bigger operations are hauling 30%+ several hours with no issues. if your hauling to a neighbor and he boils it relatively fast there will be no problems. besides dark and very dark are going to command premiums soon as more are making light and very little medium through the season.
    Fred Ahrens
    330-206-1606
    Richards Maple Products
    Ohio CDL sales rep
    1500 taps

    dont take life too serious, nobody gets out alive anyways

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