+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 18

Thread: Filter plate press vs vacuum filter

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Ashtabula County, Ohio
    Posts
    1,792

    Default Filter plate press vs vacuum filter

    Has anyone used both a traditional filter press and a cdl (or other brand) vacuum filter? I have owned both a long and short bank Wes Fab plate press, but am intrigued by the 12" vacuum press. The vacuum press seems like a lot less mess/clean-up, etc.
    1000 taps on vac down to 100+ buckets 99% sugars
    2x5 SL Hi-Output Raised Flue Corsair evaporator
    SL Short bank press with CDL diaphragm pump
    Leader Micro 1 RO for 2024
    Constantly changing
    2010:36 gal 2011:126 gal 2012:81 gal 2013:248 gal 2014: 329.5 gal 2015:305 gal 2016:316 gal 2017:258 gal 2018:147 gal 2019:91 gal 2020:30 gal 2021:30 gal 2023:50 gal Total since 2010: 2047.5 gal
    Tapping the same trees my great, great and great grandfathers tapped.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Chatham NH
    Posts
    1,318

    Default

    I haven't used a Vacuum filter but there is a pretty good video CDL put out on Utube of one working if you haven't already seen it.
    Nate Hutchins
    Nate & Kate's Maple
    2022 1000 taps?
    3x10 Intensofire
    20x36 sugarhouse
    CDL 600gph RO
    A wife and 2 kids.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Garrettsville,Ohio
    Posts
    621

    Default

    easy to use and easy to clean. your welcome to stop in , i have 2 sizes here to check out
    Fred Ahrens
    330-206-1606
    Richards Ohio Maple Equipment
    Ohio CDL sales rep
    LaPierre Dealer
    H&M maple fabricator Dealer
    Service Tech/repair for all brands and electronics

    don't take life too serious, nobody gets out alive anyways!

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Lake County Ohio
    Posts
    1,630

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by fred View Post
    easy to use and easy to clean. your welcome to stop in , i have 2 sizes here to check out
    Fred...you gonna show Heus the Leader Clear Press . You walked right into that one!

    Heus..Fred's actually a good guy and has gone over and above with service.
    John Allin

    14x18 Hemlock Timber Frame Sugar House 2009
    Leader 2x6 w/Patriot Raised Flue Pan 2009
    Leader Steam Hood 2014 - Clear Filter Press 2015
    Leader Revolution Pan and SS Pre-Heater 2016
    CDL Hobby RO & Air Tech L25 Hi Vac Pump 2019
    06' Gator HPX to collect wood & sap
    14' Ski-Doo Tundra for winter work in the woods
    Great Family 3 grown kids+spouses and 7 grand kids who like the woods
    7th Gen Born in Canada - Raised in Chardon Ohio - Maple Capital of the World..<grin>.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Garrettsville,Ohio
    Posts
    621

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by johnallin View Post
    Fred...you gonna show Heus the Leader Clear Press

    i'd be happy to, but he would be happier with something better.............
    Fred Ahrens
    330-206-1606
    Richards Ohio Maple Equipment
    Ohio CDL sales rep
    LaPierre Dealer
    H&M maple fabricator Dealer
    Service Tech/repair for all brands and electronics

    don't take life too serious, nobody gets out alive anyways!

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Ashtabula County, Ohio
    Posts
    1,792

    Default

    I've watched several videos. It almost looks too good to be true.
    1000 taps on vac down to 100+ buckets 99% sugars
    2x5 SL Hi-Output Raised Flue Corsair evaporator
    SL Short bank press with CDL diaphragm pump
    Leader Micro 1 RO for 2024
    Constantly changing
    2010:36 gal 2011:126 gal 2012:81 gal 2013:248 gal 2014: 329.5 gal 2015:305 gal 2016:316 gal 2017:258 gal 2018:147 gal 2019:91 gal 2020:30 gal 2021:30 gal 2023:50 gal Total since 2010: 2047.5 gal
    Tapping the same trees my great, great and great grandfathers tapped.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Walpole, NH
    Posts
    1,370

    Default

    Heus, I have used both. Before I got hurt and disabled 10 years ago, we tapped around 16,000 and had a 10” filter press. 6 years ago, after moving to a 15 acres property, I started sugaring as a hobby going back to the basics. Wood fired 20”x66” evaporator without a hood or pre heater, no RO, and a come filter. I used the cone filter for a couple years and was not thrilled with it. I built a new sugar house and bought a nice used 2’x8’ Algier evaporator and was up to 235 taps. I then moved up to a flat filter which wasn’t bad but at times I couldn’t get it all threw before I had more Syrup. I used filter aid to make it work better. In the spring of 2018, I purchased a 12” CDL vacuum filter on their early order program. Not knowing what would be the best vacuum source, I bought a new shop vacuum from Home Depot that is small to midsize. I think a little more vacuum would be better but not necessary. I use filter aid. It works great. The Syrup comes out sparkling clean and it is easy to use. I found that it works best if after each time running a batch through, unsnap the metal ring, pop off the top pre filter, dump off the filter aid cake, put the filter back in and go. The filters themselves hardly get dirty. When I first started using it, I tried putting Syrup through without dumping the filter cake and it was hard to get the second and third batches through. Once I learned to change each time, they go through fast. I love this filter. Any questions ask or PM me. It is much easier to use for my size operation than having a press in my opinion having used both.
    Sugaring for 45+ years
    New Sugarhouse 14'x32'
    New to Me Algier 2'x8' wood fired evaporator
    2022 added a used RB25 RO Bucket
    250 mostly Sugar Maples, 15% Soft Maples. Currently,(110on 3/16" and 125 on Shurflo 4008 vacuum, 15 gravity), (16,000 before being disabled)
    1947 Farmall H and Wagon with gathering tank
    2012 Kubota with forks to move wood around

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Ashtabula County, Ohio
    Posts
    1,792

    Default

    BAP excellent thanks
    1000 taps on vac down to 100+ buckets 99% sugars
    2x5 SL Hi-Output Raised Flue Corsair evaporator
    SL Short bank press with CDL diaphragm pump
    Leader Micro 1 RO for 2024
    Constantly changing
    2010:36 gal 2011:126 gal 2012:81 gal 2013:248 gal 2014: 329.5 gal 2015:305 gal 2016:316 gal 2017:258 gal 2018:147 gal 2019:91 gal 2020:30 gal 2021:30 gal 2023:50 gal Total since 2010: 2047.5 gal
    Tapping the same trees my great, great and great grandfathers tapped.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Walpole, NH
    Posts
    1,370

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by heus View Post
    BAP excellent thanks
    Glad to share my experience.
    Sugaring for 45+ years
    New Sugarhouse 14'x32'
    New to Me Algier 2'x8' wood fired evaporator
    2022 added a used RB25 RO Bucket
    250 mostly Sugar Maples, 15% Soft Maples. Currently,(110on 3/16" and 125 on Shurflo 4008 vacuum, 15 gravity), (16,000 before being disabled)
    1947 Farmall H and Wagon with gathering tank
    2012 Kubota with forks to move wood around

  10. #10
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    UVM Proctor Maple Research Center, Underhill Ctr, VT
    Posts
    6,413

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    Glad to share my experience.
    I'd second BAP's thoughts. We don't use our CDL vacuum filter a lot, mostly for smaller research projects or playing around with infusions when we need to filter (for us) small batches. When we do use it, it works great -- very fast with a decent vacuum pump (we use a small, cheap Harbor Freight pump for it). Results are similar to a filter press.
    Dr. Tim Perkins
    UVM Proctor Maple Research Ctr
    http://www.uvm.edu/~pmrc
    https://mapleresearch.org
    Timothy.Perkins@uvm.edu

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts