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    Default Can flavor be lost with time

    I can my syrup in 2 qt. jars after making sure the brix is spot on and its filtered. Then I will bottle it as need be at later dates. Worked fine in the past. This year I made a lot of light syrup. Canned it in the usual way, even made a note on my record of volume that the date had a good taste. Opened one yesterday and tasted it. It was sweet but that was all. No maple or butterscotch, which I have had before, not bad tastes. Had my wife taste it and she agreed and she is always a taste critic. Could have been corn syrup. I can't sell it . Any ideas?
    2012 8 Taps 3 pts syrup.
    2013 38 Taps 10 gals. syrup made with turkey cooker
    2014 57 Taps 10 gals. syrup. Homemade fuel oil tank evaporator
    2015 51 Taps, 10 gals. syrup.
    2016 50 Taps, 9 gals. Syrup
    2017 54 Taps, 13 gals. syrup
    2018 75 Taps, 21 gals. syrup
    2019 67 Taps, 21 gals.
    2020 73 Taps, 20 gals.
    2021 75 Taps 21 gal.
    2022 75 Taps 14 gal.
    2023 0 0 Stroke
    2024

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    I find the light delicate flavors of golden syrup disappear in a couple of months if stored in glass or plastic, less so if stored in stainless. Better yet is to keep the stainless barrels in a cooler.

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    taste never goes away , it might change for the darker. sounds like it was delicate and still is just different. have someone thats made syrup for a long time try it.
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    Did you make any amber or better yet dark? If yes, blend them, whichever you blend it with will then be your blended grade. It takes very little of a darker syrup to darken any lighter syrup. It will then taste good as long as the darker one you blended it with taste good.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Thinking of taking it up to 240 degrees and then adding water to proper density like if it had a metabolic flavor. According to that report doing so darkens the syrup and can enhance the flavor. This light syrup is 1/3 of my crop. It's the color of P.
    2012 8 Taps 3 pts syrup.
    2013 38 Taps 10 gals. syrup made with turkey cooker
    2014 57 Taps 10 gals. syrup. Homemade fuel oil tank evaporator
    2015 51 Taps, 10 gals. syrup.
    2016 50 Taps, 9 gals. Syrup
    2017 54 Taps, 13 gals. syrup
    2018 75 Taps, 21 gals. syrup
    2019 67 Taps, 21 gals.
    2020 73 Taps, 20 gals.
    2021 75 Taps 21 gal.
    2022 75 Taps 14 gal.
    2023 0 0 Stroke
    2024

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    Thanks for the replies guys. I did treat it as metabolic to enhance the flavor and darken it. It worked great although it isn't fun watching the pot slowly rise to 240 degrees. It turned a nice amber with great flavor. This is what my customers want. I couldn't sell a golden delicate here.
    2012 8 Taps 3 pts syrup.
    2013 38 Taps 10 gals. syrup made with turkey cooker
    2014 57 Taps 10 gals. syrup. Homemade fuel oil tank evaporator
    2015 51 Taps, 10 gals. syrup.
    2016 50 Taps, 9 gals. Syrup
    2017 54 Taps, 13 gals. syrup
    2018 75 Taps, 21 gals. syrup
    2019 67 Taps, 21 gals.
    2020 73 Taps, 20 gals.
    2021 75 Taps 21 gal.
    2022 75 Taps 14 gal.
    2023 0 0 Stroke
    2024

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    I sell very little Golden also, My sales lean heavily to dark, but a few ask for Amber. I offer a small sample ogf Golden, Amber and Dark, I have no very dark. I'd guess my sales are about 80+% Dark, maybe 15-17% Amber, the rest (1-3%) Golden as far as regular syrup go. Then my big one is my bourbon barrel aged maple syrup. In 2018 dollar wise over 50% of my sales was in BB aged syrup. In 2017 it was only 24% of dollar sales. For 2019 I don't yet see a huge swing, my guess at this time is the BB syrup will be at about 50-55%, possibly 60% of sales.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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