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Thread: 2x4 Drop Flue Sunrise vs. Smoky Lake vs. Badgerland

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    Sprung for the badgerland 2x6, which as I recall wasnt that much more than the SL 2x4 price wise or gph. I think I get 25 normally but have pushed it to 30ish.

    The reason for getting the badgerland 2x6 over the SL 2x4, despite similar outputs, is I can sell the badgerland 2x6 pans and put SL pans on it and increase surface area 50% for future expansion.

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    I have a Smokylake. 2x4 hybrid pan. I have a float box and can’t imagine life without one. We average 20 to 25 gallons per hour without any efficiency upgrades.
    You might consider RO to cut down on boil time. I made a 4x40 last year and I’m adding a second one this year.
    I’m planning to go from 250 to about 600 taps this year.
    I have been very pleased with the service I have received from Smokylake


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    I have the SL 2x4 raised flue pan set. my longest boil last season was 5 hours, just a little under 200 gal of sap. we got a late start for the season but plan on adding taps for 2020. Very satisfied with the unit. you do need lots of wood and have to keep feeding the fire about every 6 to 8 minutes. i do not have an ro system.

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    Ross,
    I believe there are 10 7in flues on a HO drop flue pan set from Smoky Lake. A 2x6 Badgerland drop flue pan set should do 30-35+ depending on the arch its on.

    I have consistently gotten 12-14 gph on my current 2x4 Divided on Corsair arch(No forced air) from Smoky Lake. I have had nothing but good things to say about Smoky Lake since 2014.
    80 Taps on Buckets
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    Slurping Sap Since 2011.

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    Thanks everyone for your input I really appreciate it.
    Sunrise 2X4 Hobby

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    I started the way you did and two seasons ago bought a smokey lake 2×6 raised flue setup. dad gets a solid 40gph I run it a bit hotter and harder than he does and get 50gph.
    As for customer service the crew at smokey lake is awesom. And fyi they also own badgerland .
    25 years sugaring
    2018 191taps. Made 80 gallons
    Two taps to a 5 gallon bucket roadside trees.
    A retired dad to hump buckets and do most of the boiling the great wife that let's me spend lots of time and money.
    New Smokey lake 2×6 raised flue SSR on my own version of the silverplate arch.
    2019 new hood and new preheater concept that worked great.
    306 taps roadside trees

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    I know I’m getting into this kind of late but I own the 2x4 Hybrid dropflu pan from Smokey Lake. I have had no problems with it. Have had quite a bit of communication with them. They have been very responsive. There are busy times when I have had to wait but that was understandable. They seem like very good people.


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    I ended up getting the Smoky Lake hybrid with flue drains added. We boiled for the first time today and averaged 18 GPH with natural draft. I blocked down the ramp a little bit more tonight and will see if it helps but we had a hard boil in all the dividers. There was just a spot in the middle of the flue section not completely going. Hopefully the adjustment will push some more heat up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross View Post
    I'm curious what your 2x6 does, too. It's advertised at 20-25 but it seems like it should do better than that.

    Fortunately all of my dealings with Sunrise and Smoky Lake have been very positive.
    The Sunrise website has been down for at least 2 months now. Anyone heard from them?
    2012 15 jugs
    2017 125 3/16 -18"x 6' drop flue, home made arch
    2018 240 3/16 12 bags -Deer Run 125 RO
    2019 450 3/16 -converted RO to electric, added a membrane
    2020 600 3/16 -Maple Pro 2x6 Raised Flue, added AOF/AUF



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    Was there about 2 weeks ago and they told me the arrangement they had with the person hosting it stopped. It didn't sound like they were planning on starting it again. You can still get to it by Googling "waybackmachine" and searching sunrise evaporator or calling them and they will mail you a new catalog.
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