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    Default Broken taps

    Last season I changed from metal 7/16 taps to plastic 5/16 to cause less trauma to the trees. I used these with buckets. Worked great until it came time to pull the taps and some of them were stuck and broke off. Now the stem part is imbedded in the tree. Not good. Any clues on how to prevent this ? Thanks

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    You likely set the taps too tight. If a plastic tap breaks off, just leave the broken part in the hole, the tree will grow over it better than if you try to dig it out, less harm to the tree.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    The hole never grows shut, the tree just grows over it. It is not a big deal to leave the stub in the tree and being plastic it won't harm a saw blade if ever harvested. So don't sweat it.
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    I too had this issue with a few taps I had set too far. After one broke off I made a tap puller out of a modified flat bar and didn't have any others break removing them this way.
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    I have had a few taps break off over the years and just be mad as hell about it . Then one day the light bulb went off went and got my tapping drill and the rest is history ------ they drill out real easy . you might have to go just a little deeper but not much .

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    I would think an "easy-out" broken bolt extractor would back it out. And a hole is already there for it's insertion.
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    Yeah a tapping bit takes them right out. drill in about half way a nd reverse it or just drill it all they way out. I have had a few break and I drilled them out, but a friend of mine just leaves them if they break.
    125-150 taps
    Smokey Lakes Full pint Hybrid pan
    Modified half pint arch
    Air over fire
    All 3/16 tubing
    Southern Ohio

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    Thanks Dave. I'll lighten up on the tapping mallet next season

    2020: 317 taps, 2021: 360, 2022: 350 2023: 300, 2024: 230 (getting smarter)
    Drop lines and hanging buckets, all hand lugged
    2 X 6 raised flue evaporator
    7in. Filter press
    17 HP Kubota tractor
    12 X 16' sugar shack
    Sugar and red maples

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    Thank you all. Good advice. Kind of late now to drill them out but I will remember that for next season-----

    2020: 317 taps, 2021: 360, 2022: 350 2023: 300, 2024: 230 (getting smarter)
    Drop lines and hanging buckets, all hand lugged
    2 X 6 raised flue evaporator
    7in. Filter press
    17 HP Kubota tractor
    12 X 16' sugar shack
    Sugar and red maples

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