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    Quote Originally Posted by Clinkis View Post
    Agreed. The original poster was looking for bulk buyers for his specific production methods (or at least that’s how I took it) Not sure why some think that comments about different production methods on the thread are not relevant, need to be moved to another thread or require moderator intervention?

    Also agree with the comment about keeping this friendly and informative.
    Please feel free to point me to the "friendly and informative" posts in this thread...lol.

    Whether or not comments regarding production methods are relevant is not the point. This forum reads like a 13 year old with ADHD. A post starts with a specific questions and by the third response, we're on a different topic...In this case of this thread the op's question is no longer even relevant. If you were the op, would you return to answer any questions or clarify your perspective?

    The point of a discussion forum is to share ideas. If someone wants to discuss various production methods and their impacts on syrup flavor, why would they look in a thread called "Bulk Buyers Vermont"?

    My point is if people want to discuss production methods and syrup flavor, then they are more likely to respond to a thread that at the least has a relevant title. And as Nate said, many people no longer participate here because of all the off-topic rants and random comments. This is a lightly moderated forum so we could all do ourselves a favor by self-moderating more effectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maple flats View Post
    With all of this discussion in this thread, I notice that the original poster never made any further post. I think they could better get a realistic answer if they clarified what the question is, rather than having so many guesses.
    The original post seems pretty clear to me. They are wondering if anyone is interested in purchasing any bulk vt syrup from a bucket and wood fired operation. Simple as that. No need to assume or guess what their intent was.

    As a moderator of this forum do you think this thread demonstrates respectful interactions among members? Do you really expect the op to return and clarify their question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralStark View Post
    The original post seems pretty clear to me. They are wondering if anyone is interested in purchasing any bulk vt syrup from a bucket and wood fired operation. Simple as that. No need to assume or guess what their intent was.

    As a moderator of this forum do you think this thread demonstrates respectful interactions among members? Do you really expect the op to return and clarify their question?
    Then if this is what you feel why was this not immediately moved to the classified ad section? That is where all for sale/buy ads go; this is a thread for discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralStark View Post
    While different production methods and their impacts to syrup flavor are an interesting topic, that is not what this thread is about. It is about a very specific subject, which is about selling bulk syrup. Perhaps this would have been better located in the classifieds, but I suspect the op is just putting out feelers. If you don't have interest in purchasing their syrup, why would you respond to the thread? It seems that this has become more of the norm here and maybe it's less moderation than in the past, or maybe it's something else. But perhaps members new and old should review the forum rules and remind themselves that some of the responses here go against the spirit of this forum. This is a community of maple enthusiasts and while it may be easy to type off a flippant response due to the nature of this medium (internet), keep in mind that we are all in this together. Ask yourself, would I respond to this person in this way if I were next to him/her having a conversation?

    If someone wants to start, or better yet revive a thread (as there are lots), about production techniques and syrup flavor then please do. But this is not the thread for that...
    Thank you


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    I apologize for starting this topic. We have always sold our syrup to a small company who had customers who wanted syrup made with Buckets and wood fire. Because of a death this company is no longer in business. Yes there is a difference in taste, and there is a market for this type of syrup, and yes I believe 3 national awards in 10 years and a best in show at one of those shows proves our syrup is different. I will delete this topic shortly so most of you can move on and find someone else to criticize!


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    [QUOTE=PFHII;372039]I apologize for starting this topic. We have always sold our syrup to a small company who had customers who wanted syrup made with Buckets and wood fire. Because of a death this company is no longer in business. Yes there is a difference in taste, and there is a market for this type of syrup, and yes I believe 3 national awards in 10 years and a best in show at one of those shows proves our syrup is different. I will delete this topic shortly so most of you can move on and find someone else to criticize!


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    Please do not feel bad about asking a legitimate question. It was certainly a valid question and a good way to reach out to other Vermont producers to see if they know someone who is buying Syrup produced the way you make it. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people lately who respond to threads without reading the questions and keeping the answers strictly to questions asked. Since Maple Trader was sold, it has turned into a more “Free For All” situation because there seems to be no oversight by the new owners like the old owners used to. Good luck finding a buyer who appreciates your quality product with a unique production methods. There are people out there who find value in that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PFHII View Post
    I apologize for starting this topic. We have always sold our syrup to a small company who had customers who wanted syrup made with Buckets and wood fire. Because of a death this company is no longer in business. Yes there is a difference in taste, and there is a market for this type of syrup, and yes I believe 3 national awards in 10 years and a best in show at one of those shows proves our syrup is different. I will delete this topic shortly so most of you can move on and find someone else to criticize!


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    No need to apoligize. Congratulations on your awards. Obviously they speak for themselves! Niche markets are always there for good products! I wish you the best in finding the spot for your bulk syrup.
    The Maple trader, Well its a pretty good place in general to hang out. Opinions, well everybody has them and sometimes they get written quickly. I would hope you are able to continue to post and contribute to the maple folks on here that need mentoring.
    BTW Thats a lot of buckets! I was up to 400 at one time and that was enough for me.
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    I see absolutely no reason to delete the thread or post.
    I sounds like you have educated many of us. It would have gotten far fewer remarks in the wrong direction if you had chimed in sooner about your honors earned in the past and the fact that you have previously been selling your syrup to a unique buyer who looked for bucket collected and wood fired syrup.
    I for one certainly was not aware any bulk buyers looked for such syrup, I never intended to talk down to you PFHII.
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    I started a thread relating to this debate.
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