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    Default Finally building my Sugar Shack!

    After 4 years boiling outside I have finally made the move to build a sugar shack. The excavating contractor came late yesterday and stripped the top soil and hauled in a crushed limestone base and leveled and compacted it. My shack is going to be 12' x 18' with an 8/12 pitch and 6' cupola in the center. I am building it on a treated wood floor system. All framing above the floor will be with native Michigan rough sawn pine from a northern Michigan Amish saw mill. I am going to make every attempt to make it look as vintage as possible. Can't wait to boil inside next year out of the weather.
    Clay Stroup
    Stroup's Sugar Bush
    Almont, MI

    2016: 20 taps, 2 gallons
    2017: 80 taps, 12 gallons
    2018: 92 taps, 16 gallons
    2019: 110 taps, 34 gallons
    2020: 140 taps, 31-1/2 gallons
    2021: 155 taps, 32 gallons
    2022: 190 taps, 29-1/2 gallons
    2023: 200 taps, 42 gallons
    Leader WSE 2x6 drop flue
    Mason Steam Pan finishing set up
    D & G 7" Filter Press
    Next Gen 180 HPRO RO
    John Deere Gator 4 x 2
    12 x 18 Sugar Shack built in 2019

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    That’s awesome clay!!! Pumped for ya! I’m excited for that day to come but will take several years in the driveway as well haha.


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    Paul Cerminara
    2019 - First season ever
    -Goal: 3 gallons
    -Season Total: 7.5 gallons - pulled taps after running out of firewood and time
    2020
    Built 2'x8' Oil Fired with Thor drop flue pans
    -Goal: 20 gallons
    -Season Total: 55 gallons

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    Awesome! You will love it!
    take and post lots of pictures too!
    Regards,
    Chris
    Casbohm Maple and Honey
    625 roadside taps + Neighbors bring some sap too!
    3x10 King, WRU, AOF and AUF
    12" SIRO Filter Press.
    2015 Ford F250 PSD sap hauler
    One Golden named Maggie, Norwegian Forest Cat named Lucy
    Too many Cub Cadets
    Ford Jubilee and several Allis WD's, and IH tractors
    1932 Ford AAB ton and a half, dump truck

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    I only boiled one year outside and that summer I started building my sugarhouse. Doing it alone and cutting the trees to be sawn by a neighbor slowed it down for sure, but I wanted to be able to say my 16x24 sugarhouse was all made from trees off my land. The next season I had a roof a, walls, doors and a partial floor made of wood, but it was a huge improvement. In 2-3 years I removed the wooden floor and poured concrete.
    At this point my only regret is that I only made a 16x24' sugar house. At the time I thought that was huge for what I had planned. Lots of room all around the evaporator and bottling pan. Now just 17 seasons later I have 2 freezers, an RO room, a wood rack that I can carry with my tractor and forks, a filter press, a water jacket bottler, a 2x6 finisher, a micro wave, solar inverter and charge controller, a larger evaporator, a draw off tank on both the evaporator and the finisher, a 28x36" rolling rack, 6' tall with commercial size backing sheets for shelves (often used in bakeries), a sink and a water heater, plus about 22' of 2' deep counters against the outside walls. I should have made the sugarhouse 24'x36'. I had heard the saying about barns or storage buildings, "figure what you need, double it and you will have half enough", I just failed apply it to sugar houses.
    Over the years I have often planned out an addition to add a kitchen, bathroom, and a cold cellar with a hoist to store barrels of syrup but when I had the time I didn't have the money, when I had the money I never had the time.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Todays update on my Sugar Shack progress. Had a productive weekend and day today until the rain started this afternoon.100_9132.jpg100_9133.jpg100_9134.jpg
    Clay Stroup
    Stroup's Sugar Bush
    Almont, MI

    2016: 20 taps, 2 gallons
    2017: 80 taps, 12 gallons
    2018: 92 taps, 16 gallons
    2019: 110 taps, 34 gallons
    2020: 140 taps, 31-1/2 gallons
    2021: 155 taps, 32 gallons
    2022: 190 taps, 29-1/2 gallons
    2023: 200 taps, 42 gallons
    Leader WSE 2x6 drop flue
    Mason Steam Pan finishing set up
    D & G 7" Filter Press
    Next Gen 180 HPRO RO
    John Deere Gator 4 x 2
    12 x 18 Sugar Shack built in 2019

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    This looks great. My biggest mistake with my shack is the dirt floor. My plan is to pour concrete this year (with radiant heat), run a proper sub-panel and water line, and build an extension. But this will have to wait until later in the year.

    You will never regret it once you start to boil indoors!
    Gary / Zena Crossroads / 42˚ 00' 24" N / Hobby in Early '70s, Addiction since 2014

    175+ taps on 3/16 (60 of which are on two Lunchbox Vac/Releasers)
    12x34 timber framed sap house w/attached 10x34 shed roof for storage
    2 x 6 Smoky Lake hybrid pan on Corsair arch with AUF/steam hood/preheater/concentric exhaust
    7.0 KW Sun Power PV System, Smokey Lake Filter Press/Steam Bottler, Modified NGMP RO - 2 4x40 posts 200 gph

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    I was doing the previous from my phone, my apologies. Anyway, 2x4 frame, cement board on the bottom (i don't recall why) lay out the brick, fill the gaps with polymuric sand (from Lowes), water it down. Easy peasy. A 3x5 piece of steel works too. Nice job on the shack! Ted
    Last edited by tbear; 05-28-2019 at 06:52 PM.

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    This place has been so helpful as I got my setup going last year I thought I would post a few suggestions after a season under my belt. The wood floor is no issue at all, I do recommend putting down some sort of rubber flooring under the arch. I purchased 2 universal truck bed liners from tractor supply which are 4' x 8' each and they catch any sap/syrup that happens to escape the pan. It is super easy to wipe clean at the end of a boil and no sticky floor issues. I glued (pl-400) concrete landscape stones from home depot 3 high and had zero heat issues, the floor always stayed cool. And you might think the whole thing might move setting on the stones like that but it does not budge. I actually tried to move it just a tiny bit to center my stack perfectly but no go. I used aluminum diamond plate in front of the firebox and that caught any embers and again I had no issues. The only thing I wished I had done about where your last photos show your progress was to frame in an opening at the peak of the cupola roof for the stack. Having to do it after the roof was on was much more work. Here are a couple of photos before the season got started, I've made a ton of changes now that the maple bug has bit hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claystroup View Post
    After 4 years boiling outside I have finally made the move to build a sugar shack..... I am going to make every attempt to make it look as vintage as possible. Can't wait to boil inside next year out of the weather.
    Vintage is a good thing, you will never regret having a beautiful sugarhouse. I know - and have never looked back. Congrats to you for sure!
    John Allin

    14x18 Hemlock Timber Frame Sugar House 2009
    Leader 2x6 w/Patriot Raised Flue Pan 2009
    Leader Steam Hood 2014 - Clear Filter Press 2015
    Leader Revolution Pan and SS Pre-Heater 2016
    CDL Hobby RO & Air Tech L25 Hi Vac Pump 2019
    06' Gator HPX to collect wood & sap
    14' Ski-Doo Tundra for winter work in the woods
    Great Family 3 grown kids+spouses and 7 grand kids who like the woods
    7th Gen Born in Canada - Raised in Chardon Ohio - Maple Capital of the World..<grin>.

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    I went with a treated floor system instead of concrete for purely financial reasons. I got multiple quotes for concrete and they were all $1200 to $1500 more than going with the treated floor system. Construction is booming in our area and certain trades can name their price. Small jobs like mine would have been aren't desirable when bigger more profitable jobs are plentiful. I have no concrete experience but a lot of carpentry experience so I decided to do the treated system myself along with all the other carpentry work. It only took me about 7 hours to do the floor system myself so it worked out good for me. Also in our township, I will not be taxed on the building because it is not considered permanent. Our tax assessor said it would save me about $80/year over if I had built it on a permanent concrete foundation. As this is a hobby for me all the costs had to be factored in. My estimate to build my shack was $4200 to $4500 total and so far I am right on budget.
    Clay Stroup
    Stroup's Sugar Bush
    Almont, MI

    2016: 20 taps, 2 gallons
    2017: 80 taps, 12 gallons
    2018: 92 taps, 16 gallons
    2019: 110 taps, 34 gallons
    2020: 140 taps, 31-1/2 gallons
    2021: 155 taps, 32 gallons
    2022: 190 taps, 29-1/2 gallons
    2023: 200 taps, 42 gallons
    Leader WSE 2x6 drop flue
    Mason Steam Pan finishing set up
    D & G 7" Filter Press
    Next Gen 180 HPRO RO
    John Deere Gator 4 x 2
    12 x 18 Sugar Shack built in 2019

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