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    Hey it works good in shine. Makes good mash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody77 View Post
    Hey it works good in shine. Makes good mash.
    You sure that product (moonshine) didn’t have any off-flavor? Maybe you should send us some for testing. A gallon or two should be enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins View Post
    You sure that product (moonshine) didn’t have any off-flavor? Maybe you should send us some for testing. A gallon or two should be enough.
    Dr Tim, I value every post you ever made. But this one is the one I agree with the most that I can relate to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTimPerkins View Post
    You sure that product (moonshine) didn’t have any off-flavor? Maybe you should send us some for testing. A gallon or two should be enough.
    Lol... Here is a related article. https://www.themaplenews.com/story/e...p-go-away/243/

    I find it interesting that the problem results from metabolites from a certain bacteria. So, not the bacteria themselves it seems, but products of their metabolism.

    And the article also supports my experience with ropey syrup in that: “Float boxes are really a problem,” and I would add that pre-heaters can be a problem as well.

    The worst experience I have had with ropey syrup was several years ago after a break in boiling for a couple weeks. Sweet sat in the pans and float boxes and the flue pan float box spoiled and then contaminated the sweet. There may have been some contamination in the pipe between the float box and preheater. Since then I drain the float boxes and wash them out after every boil. I also drain the pre heater into the flue pan while the pan is still boiling as the evap is cooling off. It's a tricky balance not running the pans to low but with forced air I can pretty effectively blow the fire out pretty quick.
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    I woke up to this issue this morning, boiled on Sunday, left the sweet in the pan, nights were frosty but days were warm. When I first started the foam was noticeable but not extraordinary....I continued on all morning fretting as I went. I have been skimming almost constantly but as the morning went on it got better and better.
    2014 - 6 buckets, 4 coffee cans and a propane burner - almost 40L of sap and 1.6L of syrup
    2015 - 103 taps on gravity. Homemade oil tank arch and a Smoky Lake 2' X 5' hybrid. - 2.66 gallons of syrup
    2016 - 101 taps, 550 gallons of sap, ~10 gallons of syrup all dark.
    2017 - 138 taps, 225 gallons of sap, 5.55 gallons of dark syrup, still procrastinating on the vac.
    2018 - ~150 taps, I lost track of the sap it was incredible!, over 20 gal of syrup, all dark.

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    I had it happen a couple years ago. Had just lit the fire and stuck my hand in the flue pan while it was still cold - and came out with a handful of snot! I ran the garden hose into the pan while I let the fire go out, drained the pan and pressure washed it. A couple hours later the pan was clean and I was boiling with fresh concentrate which made good syrup. The contents of the syrup pan were fine - it was the flue pan that turned.

    This past Sunday I drained 400 gallons out of one of our sap tanks in the woods but left 20 gallons in the tank that was pretty nasty looking. By the time I'd sloshed it around to clean up the slime it the tank it had gone totally snotty and would barely drain! 15 gallons of clean water later the tank looked like new and the sap coming in was great.
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