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    Default Looking to switch taps

    I been using Leader check valves on leader black stubbier. I do like how they perform but I hate how the taps are awful to remove from the stubbier. I have used these because I get my lines ready in fall and I donít put out check valve until I tap in February. What other taps do you favor and why?
    110 taps W.F Mason 2x3 and two turkey friers for finishing

    2011 expanding to a Mason 2x4 with a blower increasing taps to about 200
    2011 Hurricane Irene rips thru my small sugar bush cost me to lose 20% of taps
    2014 I have reworked my lines for 2014
    32 taps on 5/16 line with check valves
    57 taps on 3/16 line with check valves
    55 buckets with total tapped trees of 144

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    H20 blue spouts. They tighten right up and rarely back out.
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    2019- 1713 taps on 3/16 + vacuum, NO buckets. Made 500 gallons.

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    I use the Leader CV2 spouts and change them every year. They seat in the trees well and you can see the sap coming coming out of the tree. I tap in February and they still produce good in April. You do need a good tap puller like the one that CDL makes to pull them though. The cheap red ones bend too easy and a claw hammer won't do it either. You do have to cut about 3/4" off of the drop every year and you'll need to change to cup tees if you change over from stubbies.
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    My problem with cv2 spouts is I don't want to be putting them on in the snow. I want my lines ready to in November.
    110 taps W.F Mason 2x3 and two turkey friers for finishing

    2011 expanding to a Mason 2x4 with a blower increasing taps to about 200
    2011 Hurricane Irene rips thru my small sugar bush cost me to lose 20% of taps
    2014 I have reworked my lines for 2014
    32 taps on 5/16 line with check valves
    57 taps on 3/16 line with check valves
    55 buckets with total tapped trees of 144

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve J View Post
    My problem with cv2 spouts is I don't want to be putting them on in the snow. I want my lines ready to in November.
    Why don't you want to install CV taps (not adapters) in November?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatetreehugger View Post
    H20 blue spouts. They tighten right up and rarely back out.
    I agree with this. I switched to 1/4 h2o blue spouts this year and really like them. They seal great in the tree!

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    Use cup tees with the CV2, put them on in November or even October, then drill in Feb if that is your tapping time. Except for falling trees and limbs they will still be good to go. On new drops you can use a lower cost seasonal spout in year 1, then a CV2 in years 2-3-4 or whatever your drop change interval is. Mine is every 3 years, new taps every year.
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    I thought if I had the regular CV's on line in November they might not work well by tapping time late February. I may re- think this. I am going to run as much new line as possible this year so might be a chance to try a new tap like the H20 tap.
    110 taps W.F Mason 2x3 and two turkey friers for finishing

    2011 expanding to a Mason 2x4 with a blower increasing taps to about 200
    2011 Hurricane Irene rips thru my small sugar bush cost me to lose 20% of taps
    2014 I have reworked my lines for 2014
    32 taps on 5/16 line with check valves
    57 taps on 3/16 line with check valves
    55 buckets with total tapped trees of 144

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve J View Post
    I been using Leader check valves on leader black stubbier. I do like how they perform but I hate how the taps are awful to remove from the stubbier. I have used these because I get my lines ready in fall and I donít put out check valve until I tap in February. What other taps do you favor and why?
    Are you using the black CV We switch to the clear CV adapter it has two lines in the plastic that you can see and we only tap the stubby in to the first line. Does it just snap apart in your hand NO
    but I carry a small water pump pliers that stay in my hand, pop the adapter out of tree grab stubby in one hand and quite twist on adapter with pliers and comes right apart. However if you pound the stubby in past that first line yeah your going to struggle. If you tap when the sap is flowing you really have to be careful when tapping or it will slip right in to far
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