The syrup I made tonight has a pretty bad flavor to it. It tastes floral to me. Is this typical of buddy sap or maybe ropey syrup or maybe something else caused it? I've never had any syrup taste like this before. Thanks for any input.
The syrup I made tonight has a pretty bad flavor to it. It tastes floral to me. Is this typical of buddy sap or maybe ropey syrup or maybe something else caused it? I've never had any syrup taste like this before. Thanks for any input.
It's possible for late season sap to produce many off flavors in the finished syrup. The chemical make up of the sap changes as the trees come out of dormancy. They don't need to be budded to produce an off flavor.
You'll know ropey syrup when you see it. It will string off of the draw off valve when you close it and will do the same thing if you stick a scoop in it and pull it out. If you get it that far pour some out of a jug, you'll definitely know that it's ropey then.
Russ
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Could be buddy or sour sap (or something different). Where are you in VT and are you using buckets or tubing? How long did the sap sit before it was boiled?
UVM Maple Extension produced an off-flavor reference kit a few years back. It includes a suite of "natural" off-flavors, with samples of buddy, sour sap, and metabolism. I think VMSMA sells them. There are plans to make another kit with more common off-flavors.
Another way is to bring it to us at UVM PMRC (Underhill) or to the UVM Extension Office (Morrisville) and we can taste it and try to identify the reason behind the off-flavor. Yeah...loads of fun that task is. Best to call ahead to make sure somebody can be around. 802-899-9926. Usually Mark Isselhardt (UVM Maple Extension) is the lucky taster.
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If the sap is cloudy but does not smell sour it should be ok to boil correct ? The batch that I am boiling now is a little cloudy but wont know until I finish it . I think I read on this site somewhere that some one boiled down cloudy sap at the end of the year an it was the best they made .
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I am in Hartland, using 3/16 tubing. The sap was collected Saturday evening and boiled Sunday morning and then more collected and boiled Monday. My hill is mostly northfacing and still has a fair amount of snow.
I just made my last batch of the season (in the foothills of the Berkshires). Finally a batch of dark syrup this season, which I'm grateful for (I like the dark best). The taste is excellent, but as it was boiling it had a very faint off smell to it. My wife described it best - she said "Smells like Doritos". LOL. Is that buddiness?
Gabe
2016: Homemade arch from old wood stove; 2 steam tray pans; 6 taps; 1.1 gal
2017: Same setup. 15 taps; 4.5 gal
2018: Same setup. Limited time. 12 taps and short season; 2.2 gal
2019: Very limited time. 7 taps and a short season; 1.8 gals
2020: New Mason 2x3 XL halfway through season; 9 taps 2 gals
2021: Same 2x3, 18 taps, 4.5 gals
2022: 23 taps, 5.9 gals
2023: 23 taps. Added AUF, 13.2 gals
2024: 17 taps
All on buckets
Hard to say. Late-season syrup can smell yeasty, like old sweat-socks during boiling, so "Doritos" (cheesy-smell) might be the stage you're at. Can make nice dark, good-tasting syrup. Typically after that is when you get buddy. Buddy is a very distinctive, rather unpleasant taste. If it is there, you'd know it.
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https://mapleresearch.org
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http://www.uvm.edu/~pmrc
https://mapleresearch.org
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