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    Called bascoms this morning. Golden delicate and amber 2.10 lb,dark robust 2.00 lb,very dark 1.75 lb
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    When you sell bulk like that, what size or how small of a container will they buy?
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    Bascoms’s will take any size down to the 5 gallon blue jugs. They pay 5 cents per pound less if in 5 gallon jugs.
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    It appears that the bulk price hasn't changed since I was at Bascom's in January. What happens in April when Canada sets the price is anybody's guess. If Quebec has a bad season they could go up but don't count on it.

    I would have liked to add to the hijack of this thread but won't.
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    Ya my plan is not to sell any in bulk. I sold 20 gallons last year. 10 gals that I thought had an off flavor and 10 gals of black burned crap. But I like to keep the bulk price in the back of my mind when I'm giving people deals on larger amounts of syrup. Like today I sold an old guy 10 gals in qts. While I gave him a good discount over my normal price I still did way way better then bulk.
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    Bulk Prices will not go up anytime soon. 10 years ago I was the only producer in the area now there are 5 "producers" within 10 miles of me. It is a trend and the guys with big overhead will have to be squeezed out when times are tough to re-balance the market. Luckily I retail all of my syrup to my local loyals and only bulk my pan scraps (around 20 gallons). It was nice to get $3.20 back in the day for nasty syrup but those days are gone.
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    No offense but what's up wth the quotations on producers???
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    Bowtie, those aspects all play a part in bulk prices. Likely the reason Bascom's is quoted is because he is one of the largest in the north east.
    The bulk price has a lot more to do with the exchange rate between the US and Canada than it does with the new producers in thew business, maybe with a couple of exceptions. There are 2 either new players or ones who have made a huge expansion recently.
    The main fact is that Quebec, who makes 70% or more of the world syrup supply sets their price and then the exchange rate brings that price way down for us in the States. As of today a dollar Canadian is only $.75 US, thus the price in Canada is down to only 75% of that in the U.S. Yes they need to pay freight and duties but that 75% ratio figures in big. If you travel to Canada that rate helps in your mind but in reality most things in Canada will cost about 33% more give or take.
    bowtie, if you want to know the price of bulk don't you want to also know where that price is? Not all bulk buyers pay the same, some may be higher and others may be lower, but they will be close, at least until any buyer has all they want at that time, then they will either buy none or they will pay less per pound.
    By the way, syrup consumption has risen at a 7% rate every year for the last several years world wide, and only the US and Canada make maple syrup.
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    I'll tell you why I'd put quote marks around "Producers" I've got 2 local to me. That have made quite a name for themselves at farmers markets. And if they make a 1/10th of the syrup they sell I'd be surprised. Guess since its my thread I can hijack right?
    I remember getting paid real money for buddy syrup when I first started. And 3.50 a lb for decent stuff.
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    Bascoms has raised their prices to $2.10 a pound a couple of weeks ago. Word around Vermont is that production will be impacted greatly by the weather this year. A few of the packers have been out in the field recruiting new producers to help make up their shortfall. I feel that syrup prices may still go up in the not too distant future. Don't be afraid to sit on your syrup for a little while.
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