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    Default 10' by 10' sugarhouse ideas

    My town clerk just informed me that I don't have to get a permit and I won't be taxed on a 10' by 10' out building on my property so that is all I need to know to realize I need to make this project a minimalist one! So I wonder how well a half pint will fit in a sugarhouse of that size. I was debating retrofitting my 24'x48' garage but I'm over that idea.

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    I had the same situation. Ended up 8x10 because it was more cost effective material wise. We had a 2x3 and now a 2x6. Both fit, but don't count on room for a bunch of visitors! The rest of my tanks/processing equipment is in the garage, the shack is evaporator only.

    We are moving into my garage next year I think. That said, my building might be for sale. It would require a trailer and some work to transport.
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    I would love to see a picture.

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    Shirefisher, dont get stuck on the 10x10. Most building codes are based on square footage and I expect the actual rule is 100 sq ft so 8x12 would work or any other rectangle that is under 100!

    We have a mini pro that is about 2 x8. We use for demo purposes so wanted side exposed so people could see. Built a 5x12 shed, so width wise gives us about 2' to go behind, allows large doors to close in front when not in use. On the length, the stack is about 16" off the wall and at other end room enough to stack up a wood pile that keeps it going for a day.
    2023 - 130 taps, 90L from 4,000L as of mid March
    2021 - 84 taps, 50L from 2100L
    2020 - 100 taps on buckets, 21L syrup from 2700L so far (FEB 26-Mar 13) and then the pandemic hit! End of our season!
    2019 - 62 taps on buckets, 95L syrop from 3215L sap
    2018 - 62 taps, collecting by hand, 90L syrop from 3200L sap
    2017 - Lapierre Waterloo Small mini pro with 40 taps
    2014 - 2016 40 taps making one or two batches on a 2x6 flat pan over an open arch as it would have been done in 1900

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    Thank you I'm now brainstorming about the idea of an overhang in the front with 2 barn doors that would open and be the "walls" for the sides of the overhanging "porch". This would give me some more room when in operation....Then it would be a 10'x14' (10'x10'+4')....ish... or it could be (12'x8'+4')...ish...
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    Keep in mind though, you'll want the doors closed during boiling for best evap, steam evacuation, ect.
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    I have been in the current use program since 2004. No building permit is needed for the sugar house and the sugar house and other out building related to sugaring are exempt from taxes.

    Build your sugar house a large as you can afford. They get awful small as you add more taps, filter press, caner, a RO, barrels and the list goes on.

    Joe
    2004- 470 taps on gravity and buckets
    2006- 590 taps on gravity and buckets 300 gph RO
    2009- 845 taps on vacuum no buckets, 600 gph RO
    2010- 925 taps on vacuum new 2 stage vacuum pump
    2014- 3045 taps on vacuum, new 1200 gph RO
    2015- 3104 taps on vacuum
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    So I'm thinking of upping the hobby maple game and getting a bid for a 10x10 or 12 x8 with an extended porch overhang with the doors as extended walls and a dairy curtain for the front door... the extension would be for visitors and if room is needed... and post and beam it... like my garage. I feel confident I could make it work and it would be awesome. I have spent some time living/working on boats so I have some romantic dreams of small spaces....

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    The inside floor space for my shack is 10x10 and it works fine with my 2x4 pan.

    Being small helped minimize how the building codes and zoning effected the cost.
    2019-2023 40 to 50 taps to get 8 to 10 gallons of syrup
    2018 Built the sugar shack, produced 10.5 gallons (converted some to sugar,& cream). taps varied 45 to 50
    2017 Built 2x4 arch for a divided pan, 8.5 gallons from 30 taps increased to 42 taps during season.
    2016 Produced 3 gallons & 1 quart Syrup, Block arch & 3 buffet pans, 12 taps
    2015 Thought about tapping

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    I just uncovered what is left of my concrete pad where my fire wood sits. There is 16x24 feet of cement pad just waiting for a sugar shack to be built. Not to mention I found some timber left over from my post and beam garage. And some roofing. I think I'll have a decent plan once I move my firewood around. The build will be to the left....
    KINDLE_CAMERA_1554229976000.jpg my garage wants a mini me....sugar shack. Reddorakeen I love the look of your sugar house.
    Last edited by Shirefisher; 04-25-2019 at 06:46 PM.

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