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    While my trees woke up late, I think they ran the hardest yesterday I've ever seen since I started in 17 years ago. Wow, it was great! They ran all night too. I don't know if I have enough storage but I'm going to try to hold my sap starting today, to run on the weekend for Maple Weekend Saturday and Sunday. I have a 415 and a 545 gal that I routinely use, but I have a 325, a 200 and even an 850 I could move, clean and put into service if needed. I could even drain my 1000 gal permeate tank and use my old 550 plastic tank for permeate and fill thew 1000 gal with sap too. Now this is a good problem to have heading into Maple Weekend.
    It seems only too often, as Maple Weekend comes around I end up having to boil water, not this week. We also have another next weekend too, I hope that gives me lots of sap too.
    Dave Klish about 1320 taps in '15, down to about 700 in '16, up to 1000 for 2019?
    2012 Mahindra 36 HP 4x4/ loader/cab/heat/AC:-)
    added a gooseneck equipment trailer and F350 to tow it to haul more sap
    3x8 raised flue evaporator
    250 GPH converted to electric, RO by Ray Gingerich
    6.32 KW solar system, 1.48KW is battery backed up, all net metered
    http://s1041.photobucket.com/albums/...anssugarhouse/
    website: www.cnymaple.com

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    Same here. I wouldn't have thought it possible that my trees could produce so much for so long. I couldn't handle it all without the RO. Seems like they are making up for the big freeze up several weeks ago.
    Gary
    Zena Crossroads
    42˚ 00' 24" N

    Hobby in Early '70s, Addiction since 2014
    +-150* taps on 3/16 (36 on Lunchbox Vac/Releaser) *more like 130+- for 2019

    12x14 timber framed sap house w/attached 10x14 shed roof for storage w/expansion plans for 2019
    2 x 6 Smoky Lake hybrid pan on home built arch (cast concrete) with AUF/AOF/steam hood/preheater
    5.0 KW Sun Power PV System, Smokey Lake Filter/Steam Bottler, New for 2019 - NGMP 100 gph RO

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    Same story in Southern Tompkins County. Late start to the season, sugar content is up and flow over the past 2 days has been highest per tap (average 2+ gallons/24 hr) that I have observed in 6 years of doing this. On another note, I milled some fresh cut white pine logs and lumber was unusually heavy. We had a drought here in 2016 which resulted in low sugar content and reduced tree growth over the past 2 years. The wet conditions seem to have reversed things. Our sap:syrup ratio is 42:1 this year and was in the 50s last 2 years with a couple runs in the low 60s.

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    No freeze overnight and I got 3.25 gal sap/tap in 22 hrs. I don't even have the high vacuum on yet. That will come about Monday or Tuesday. Right now I'm on 16" at my lease (Vacuum tank, new pump and engine) After Maple Weekend I'll set up my new method at the lease. I've built a releaser stand to mount on top of the vacuum tank, then I hope to run at 23-25", time will tell. It would have been added this week but the sap was coming in so fast we didn't get the time. I may speed the engine up a little tomorrow, I trust that tank to 19".
    Dave Klish about 1320 taps in '15, down to about 700 in '16, up to 1000 for 2019?
    2012 Mahindra 36 HP 4x4/ loader/cab/heat/AC:-)
    added a gooseneck equipment trailer and F350 to tow it to haul more sap
    3x8 raised flue evaporator
    250 GPH converted to electric, RO by Ray Gingerich
    6.32 KW solar system, 1.48KW is battery backed up, all net metered
    http://s1041.photobucket.com/albums/...anssugarhouse/
    website: www.cnymaple.com

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    Itís been running crazy out here in the Saratoga region, too. I emptied buckets 2 days ago with the kids and every single one was overflowing from a 12 hour run (2g buckets), they were loving it. Measured the sugar of the full tank at 2.5% but then today I emptied full buckets again and read a full 4% for the tank average, highest Iíve seen to date!

    Happy sappin
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    2015: 8 bucket taps (7 red, 1 sugar) on DIY barrel evaporator
    2016: 13 taps (bucket and tube) all sugars, DIY block arch

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    My best haul so far has been 2.3% this season. I think if we get 3-4 days in a row of freeze thaw cycles it will climb, it usually does but not always. My best ever for a haul was 3.75% and that was only 1 day, then it fell the next day. I don't recall what it was the next day and I don't have the time to search my records, far too busy. But, this is what we wait all year for.
    Dave Klish about 1320 taps in '15, down to about 700 in '16, up to 1000 for 2019?
    2012 Mahindra 36 HP 4x4/ loader/cab/heat/AC:-)
    added a gooseneck equipment trailer and F350 to tow it to haul more sap
    3x8 raised flue evaporator
    250 GPH converted to electric, RO by Ray Gingerich
    6.32 KW solar system, 1.48KW is battery backed up, all net metered
    http://s1041.photobucket.com/albums/...anssugarhouse/
    website: www.cnymaple.com

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    I have not had the sap run that hard ever. Collected 2,400 gallons of sap off 1350 taps in 24 hours. It was still running and I got another 700 yesterday. Will gather up another 500 + today to boil for maple weekend. Looks to be a similar set up for Sunday with a freezing night and sun during the day. Should be a record year for production for us.
    Chris
    18 X 20 sugar shack
    1300 taps all on vac.
    2 by 8 Lapierre all stanless evaporator
    Steam Hood
    Lapierre 250 Turbo R.O.
    Polaris Ranger
    30 years experience

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    one woods had almost 3 gpt in 36 hours, and ive processed about 20k gals in the past 2 days, and a whopping 5 hours of sleep. but, this is the stuff i dream of all year.
    2008-2013 30 Taps half buckets, half tubing
    30"X42" pan over oil arch
    2014- 1200 on vacuum, 200 gravity
    2015-2017: 2500 on vacuum
    2018- 2500 on vacuum, 100 buckets. selling sap & helping in saphouse.

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    This is what we all wait to read! ENJOY!! Awesome!
    ~ Karen ~

    2012 - 10 taps, 1 turkey fryer - 169.5L sap 4.2 L syrup
    2013 - 23 taps, 2 turkey fryers - 748.5 L sap 17.56 L syrup

    2014 - 22 taps, 509 L sap 12.5 L syrup
    2015 - 28 taps, 1093.75 L sap 25.1 L syrup
    2016 - 25 taps, 1223.5 L sap 28.25 L syrup
    2017 - 21 taps, 518.5 L sap 12.7 L syrup
    2018 - 28 taps, 2 turkey fryers & Denali 3 burner propane stove - 798L sap 16.9 L syrup
    2019 - 28 taps, 1409.5L sap 40.12L syrup

    Sugar, Norway, Manitoba, Silver and Freeman Maples



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    After 2 super days of sap flow, it has now slowed. Where I got 3.25 gal/tap in 22 hrs has now fallen to 1.1 gal/tap in the next 22 hrs. No, 22 hr intervals is not cast in stone, it just happened that way.
    Dave Klish about 1320 taps in '15, down to about 700 in '16, up to 1000 for 2019?
    2012 Mahindra 36 HP 4x4/ loader/cab/heat/AC:-)
    added a gooseneck equipment trailer and F350 to tow it to haul more sap
    3x8 raised flue evaporator
    250 GPH converted to electric, RO by Ray Gingerich
    6.32 KW solar system, 1.48KW is battery backed up, all net metered
    http://s1041.photobucket.com/albums/...anssugarhouse/
    website: www.cnymaple.com

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