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    Morning all,

    I was told by a friend about this electronic water de scaler that is supposed to help minerals from adhering to your water pipes. It simply plugs in and you wrap the control wires around the water pipe and let it work.

    the technology supposedly treats water in pipes with magnetic and electric field which results in mineral crystallization that will not easily adhere to pipe walls or plumbing fixtures. The treated water remains chemically unchanged therefore will retain the beneficial and healthy minerals like calcium and magnesium.

    He also told me that he knows a sugar maker who used it on his incoming feed line for the sap in the evaporator and had noticeably less niter buildup on his pans. My question is, have any of you heard of this or tried it? They look pricey and would like some feedback if you have any info on them.

    Sounds to good to be true but hey, I thought it would be worth asking.

    Thanks in advance,

    Ed
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    There have been no scientific studies that show the effectiveness of these devices.
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    Well thank you for the info. They command a pretty penny.

    Ed
    5th generation sugar maker
    700 +- taps
    2008 Leader 2.5 x 8 drop flue with air tight front/blower
    16 x 32 Leader gas finisher
    Wes Fab 7" Filter Press
    Water Jacketed Canning Tank 20 gallons capacity
    475 gallon Stainless head tank
    600 gallon raw sap bulk tank
    MES 300gl per hr RO
    Marcland Auto Draw
    Kubota XG 850 sap Hauler
    Kubota M5900 4x4 Tractor with loader


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    I built a bubbler/air injector for my evaporator to keep the nitre suspended. I concentrate my sap into the teens and my syrup used to always be dark because nitre was burning in the flues. I built the bubbler in 2013 and haven't made very much dark syrup since. If you're looking into this water de-scaler because you're having the same problem look into buying or building a bubbler.
    Russ

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    Russ,

    Is it like the unit bascoms used to offer? injects air into the bottom of the surup pan?

    Ed
    5th generation sugar maker
    700 +- taps
    2008 Leader 2.5 x 8 drop flue with air tight front/blower
    16 x 32 Leader gas finisher
    Wes Fab 7" Filter Press
    Water Jacketed Canning Tank 20 gallons capacity
    475 gallon Stainless head tank
    600 gallon raw sap bulk tank
    MES 300gl per hr RO
    Marcland Auto Draw
    Kubota XG 850 sap Hauler
    Kubota M5900 4x4 Tractor with loader


    https://photos.app.goo.gl/6ZaySVbGEtcW2b5U9

    Visit us at http://fletcher-farm.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by maple marc View Post
    There have been no scientific studies that show the effectiveness of these devices.
    This comment is correct.
    Dr. Tim Perkins
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    I actually had purchased a unit like this and used it for two years. It did not work.
    Chad

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    Quote Originally Posted by highway View Post
    Russ,

    Is it like the unit bascoms used to offer? injects air into the bottom of the surup pan?

    Ed
    If the unit that you're talking about has tubes with holes in them that run along the bottom of the pans then yes that's what I built.
    Russ

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    1930 Ford Model AA Doodlebug tractor
    A couple of Honda 4 wheelers
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