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    Had my first experience with squirrels. I use tubing drops into buckets. I had a good run a week ago but the weather has been too cold for several days. I went out yesterday about noon to see if the sap had been running. About 25% of my buckets were turned over and I had 25 taps chewed, some completely chewed off at the tree. Fortunately I had some spare drops already made up and I managed to patch several others. I'm going to make sure I have several spare drops from now on. I a had small section of about 15 taps and they had damaged or destroyed everyone of them.
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    2015 - 71 taps - 13.5 gallons syrup, 2016 - 125 taps - 24.25 gallons syrup
    2017 - 129 taps - 17.5 gallons syrup, 2018 - 128 taps- 18 gallons syrup
    2019 -130 taps - 18.5 gallons syrup, 2020 ~125 taps-19.75 gallons syrup

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    This year seemed to be really bad for squirrel damage.
    I think some squirrels at my house may have overdosed on tubing!
    115 red maples on vacuum
    100 taps on 5/16 gravity
    35 taps on 3/16 gravity
    50 taps on shurflo vacuum
    about 60 buckets on giant roadside sugars
    neighbor bringing from 45 taps
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    I use a spray made up of Vicious Viper hot sauce, vegetable oil and water. It works very well, however if you just have drops into buckets the spray would likely get into the sap in the bucket and that would ruin the sap.
    The recipe we use: 5-6 drops Vicious Viper, about 1/2 cup vegetable oil and then fill a 24 oz spray bottle the rest of the way with water. Shake each time you go to spray, it does not stay in suspension. Use nitrile gloves and eye protection.
    Once a squirrel gets 1 taste they will never bite the tubing again. I only spray near the tree, not in stretches between the trees. We have never detected any in the syrup.
    The spray lasts about 10-14 days, less if it rains. One 5 oz bottle of vicious Viper will be good for the season for about 2-3000 taps.
    Last edited by maple flats; 02-22-2019 at 06:47 PM.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    I have yet to have a problem with them. Are the grey or red or both?
    2020 same
    2019 RB10 26 taps
    2018 RO Bucket RB5 taps 20, leg tank in shed w/2 5/16
    2017 18 taps
    2016 20 taps
    2015 21 taps
    2014 30 2 gravity line, 2 hotel pan concrete arch 35 g leg tank
    2013 LP hook up in shack buckets 12 taps
    2 burner cook top 2012 finisher on a bbq tanks
    2011 rookie 2+ gal
    8 taps w/ milk jugs
    turkey cooker
    50-60 up back maybe

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    Quote Originally Posted by to100 View Post
    I have yet to have a problem with them. Are the grey or red or both?
    Don't say that too loud....they might be listening

    Kind of like talking about a flat tire - taboo
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    14' Ski-Doo Tundra for winter work in the woods
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    Quote Originally Posted by to100 View Post
    I have yet to have a problem with them. Are the grey or red or both?
    I have a few thousand that I will send across the river to you if you really want to know.
    Sugaring for 45+ years
    New Sugarhouse 14'x32'
    New to Me Algier 2'x8' wood fired evaporator
    2022 added a used RB25 RO Bucket
    250 mostly Sugar Maples, 15% Soft Maples. Currently,(110on 3/16" and 125 on Shurflo 4008 vacuum, 15 gravity), (16,000 before being disabled)
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    Last weekend my girlfriend put some of my syrup on Brussels Sprouts and roasted them. Man were they good.

    I bet roasted maple glazed squirrel (red or gray) would be mighty fine too.

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    Hey sugar bear
    As a matter of fact we had a squirrel stew tonight with maple syrup added. man was it yummy.

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    Squirrel populations come in waves. A heavy mast year in the forest trees allows the squirrel to have two, or even three litters in a single season. A couple years back to back like that can lead to a ten-fold increase in populations. Now this sets quite a banquet for all those predators that eat squirrel, and a good food supply always leads to a population spike. Expect to see more foxes and hawks a few years later and they will work to whittle that squirrel population back down. Nothing ever happens in a vacuum, and wave generates wave somewhere forever.

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    I have also noticed that some of the gray squirrels these days as compared to the one's say back in the 1970's look like they are taking steroids. Like they hit the gym every day too. Like they could chew through steel pipe. Like you might need to go to a .22 Hornet instead of just a .22

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