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    Ok so that took me a bit longer to acquire all the parts, but in the end we got there. Me and my brother built ours from an aquatech 8800, with 2-400 GPD membranes it took a bunch of extra trips for stupid stuff but we finished tonight.

    3% sugar content to 7% at about 105psi. Sap is pretty cold here and temps are below freezing, not ideal but it works. Only processed about 3.5 gal but can't wait to crank it tomorrow. Have about 50 gal to do. Will probably dial it to 6% for faster processing.
    2019- RO
    2018- 25 taps made 8 gal syrup.
    2017- 25 taps -built a 2x3 flat pan, and a fuel tank arch for it. 335 gal 7.34gal syrup.

    2016- 15 taps, 4.3gal syrup boiling on cinderblock arch 3 roasting pans, 1 redneck trash can with a pot, and a turkey fryer.

    2015- 4 taps 44 gals of sap made 2.25 gal of lite syrup.

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    New to the ro thing so bear with me,I was given a ss 4x21 membrane housing 300 psi rating.Would the 8800 pump work with this single
    housing ? I see they are using 2 and 3 400 gpd membranes thinking this would be about the same ?Have 40 taps as of now could do another
    10 to 15 but without a ro its not likely,what are your thoughts for a good set up with the 4x21 ? thanks in advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by barnbc76 View Post
    Ok so that took me a bit longer to acquire all the parts, but in the end we got there. Me and my brother built ours from an aquatech 8800, with 2-400 GPD membranes it took a bunch of extra trips for stupid stuff but we finished tonight.

    3% sugar content to 7% at about 105psi. Sap is pretty cold here and temps are below freezing, not ideal but it works. Only processed about 3.5 gal but can't wait to crank it tomorrow. Have about 50 gal to do. Will probably dial it to 6% for faster processing.
    Hi barnbc76, just curious how long it took to process your 3.5 Gal at 105psi? And what kind of pump do you use?
    2019 - 80 taps - 30"x30" pan modified for continious flow with SAP pre-heater - 400GPD RO - TBD Syrup.
    2018 - 32 taps - 30" x 30" flat pan (boiling takes forever..) 8 Gal syrup.
    2017 - 20 taps - Small flat pan - 1.5 Gal Syrup.
    2016 - 10 taps - Small flat pan - 1/2 Gal syrup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlapointe View Post
    Hi barnbc76, just curious how long it took to process your 3.5 Gal at 105psi? And what kind of pump do you use?
    I'm not him, but he mentions the pump... aquatech 8800.
    2015 - 8 buckets, 332L sap, 8.5L syrup - Barrel evaporator, 2 steam pans
    2016 - 8 buckets, 432L sap
    2017 - 10 bags, 470L sap, 9L syrup
    2018 - 20 bags, 1050L sap, 17.6L syrup
    2019 - 20 bags, 970L sap, 22.2L syrup
    2020 - 17 bags, 813L sap, 17L syrup

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    So I finished my last ro of the season, I didn't do as much as I usually do this year I was just too tired. I did approximately 220gal of sap. The processing rate fluctuated through the season. In the beginning of the season my sugar content was at about 3% and slowly fell to my last batch which was only 1.5%. When the sugar content was 3% or higher it took a long time to process. To remove the first 5 gal of water out of 50gal it would only take about an hr. But then it seemed like the rate was cut in half each hr. Until eventually it was no longer effective. The reason for this is because I did not have a tank for the concentrate so I just cycled it back into the sap tank. The weather also was often around 20 degrees at night so it made it more difficult in the beginning when trying to figure things out.
    I initially tried using the plywood control panel but that proved to be too much work to move myself. Instead I used a tote and put the membranes housings inside a 5gal bucket inside which allowed me to cover it up sufficiently to keep it running in the cold weather outside. At the end of the season the RO really worked well as my sugar content was only 1.5, I think I removed close to 40 gal of water in the same amount of time it took to remove 20 gal during the colder temps. All in all I think I would recomend just buying the RO bucket for ease. But I'm enjoying today only having about 30 gal of sap to boil as opposed to the 70gal I started with..
    2019- RO
    2018- 25 taps made 8 gal syrup.
    2017- 25 taps -built a 2x3 flat pan, and a fuel tank arch for it. 335 gal 7.34gal syrup.

    2016- 15 taps, 4.3gal syrup boiling on cinderblock arch 3 roasting pans, 1 redneck trash can with a pot, and a turkey fryer.

    2015- 4 taps 44 gals of sap made 2.25 gal of lite syrup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobMac View Post
    New to the ro thing so bear with me,I was given a ss 4x21 membrane housing 300 psi rating.Would the 8800 pump work with this single
    housing ? I see they are using 2 and 3 400 gpd membranes thinking this would be about the same ?Have 40 taps as of now could do another
    10 to 15 but without a ro its not likely,what are your thoughts for a good set up with the 4x21 ? thanks in advance
    Have you tried this yet? Curious how affective a 4” membrane is at lower pressure (125-150psi). Please post your results if you attempt this. Thanks
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