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    Default RO... first rinse??

    This will be my first year with my cdl hobby 250... my membranes are both in storage in preservative. Just wondering what everyone does to clean/ rinse them before running sap through... I live in country with well water which is hard water...
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    Shouldn't use well water, especially if it has high iron content. if you have to then go ahead with it. I have no choice really, so I do it only for the first rinse. I ordered citric acid to hopefully keep the membrane as clean as possible.
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    Check your water, it may not be as bad as you think. In a perfect world you would use permeate. You should rinse them with about 250 gallons of water. One choice is to rinse with enough water to produce enough permeate for a full wash.

    You should soak your membranes before trying to push any fluid through. Also make sure the unit has been heated with at least a simple heat lamp if below freezing.

    Good luck,

    Mike
    Tapping since 1985 (four generations back to early to mid 1900s). 200-250 taps on buckets and then tubing in the mid 90s. 2013- 275 taps w/sap puller 25 gal. 2014-295 taps w/sap puller 55 ga. (re-tapped to vacuum theory) 2015-330 taps full vac. 65 gal, 2016-400 taps 105 gal, 2017-400 taps 95 gal. 2018-additional 800' mainline and maybe 400 new taps for a total near 800 taps. 2x6 Leader WSE (last year on it) supported by a 250 gph RO.

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    You should have a manual with that RO, do what it says. If you didn't get a manual, call CDL and get one.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    Hi all,

    I'm in the same boat as Butler, my water is treated with a water softener, so there shouldn't be any iron or manganese. Maybe some minute minerals, but not enough to cause me problems. What do you all think?
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    I use well water to rinse mine. I've been doing it that way for years and haven't had any issues because of it. Don't use city water, the chlorine is bad for the membranes. I use 100 gallons per 4" membrane.
    Russ

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    I use city water. I pump it into my permeate tank and let it set for 3 days to evaporate off the chlorine before using it.
    Dave Klish, I recently ordered a 2x6 wood fired evaporator from A&A Sheet Metal which I will be converting to oil fired
    Now have solar, 2x6 finish pan, 5 bank 7x7 filter press, large water jacketed bottler, and tankless water heater.
    Recently bought another Gingerich RO, this one was a 125, but a second membrane was added thus is a 250, like I had.
    After running a 2x3, a 2x6, 3x8 tapping from 79 taps up to 1320 all woodfired, now I'm going to a 2x6 oil fired and a 200-425 taps.

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    I use city water for mine and have never had a problem. I check it with test strips and it shows under .5 so I use it. New research is showing that chlorine may not be as bad as thought, depending on which type of membrane.

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